Dear me, what a predictable showing that was. :doh:
Another Old Trafford non-performance to throw on the pile.
On we go.
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Dear me, what a predictable showing that was. :doh:
Another Old Trafford non-performance to throw on the pile.
On we go.
Well - we can't say we haven't had most of the game to consider this.
In reality all this showed was that we are not really ahead of a vulnerable Premiership.
3 big matches in a week was too much for us. Let's forget this game and move on.
NQ says we were the better team.
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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Bad first half, decent second.
When you just want a bounce your way.
Rooney won it for them. Not having Mert lost it for us IMO.
Fuck you RVP. Fuck off Utd. Spawny cunts.
Hugely disappointing. A chance to show how serious we are and our attacking players don't turn up. Can't really fault the team selection with all the injuries. Vermaelen was fine. Rosicky was a big miss though. A really poor match decided by a set-piece.
Ozil and Cazorla really poor. Giroud and Ramsey weren't particularly good but were always involved.
Shame we didn't have any viable options off the bench, but if the starting players had played with some energy and cohesion, we could have got a result against a vulnerable team.
We need to go on another winning run to erase this missed opportunity.
Arsenal :doh:.
Mods merge pls. Thx
Sucks but top of the league tbf.
We were a waste of space, they were there for the taking, an out of form average side with a manager who hasn't put his stamp on the team. Instead we were shoddy, lazy and didn't turn up, very disappointing indeed.
I really believed before this game, it's probably the 1st time in years we've gone to OT and I've believed we could do something special, but as usual we blow it and lose, I don't get these players sometimes.
So frustrating that we dominated against this side despite being awful, every one of our attacking midfielders played badly with the exception of Wilshere.....yet the media will laud Man United and the tactical masterclass......they sat back deeper than I have ever seen them do at Old Trafford and yet we still didn't have the presence to trouble. Lost a game we never deserved to against one of the most feeble United sides there has ever been.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Yet the media will go on about their shite like Phil Jones and how he kept us at bay, if the players hadn't been spending half the night on the toilet seat he'd have been dead on his arse....We created nothing yet they had to really struggle to keep us at bay....so annoyed!
Poor team selection from Wenger again. I wonder what will he do when most of our midfielders come back from the international duties next week? How on earth he justified moving Ramsey to the wing for Arteta and Flamini?
Poor and very timid first half, this lot is scare playing at OT. :coffee:
Ah well, was a perfect chance to gain some ground on everyone else. Thought we could win here, but again, OT will always be a difficult place to go to even without Fergie there.
First half was dire, couldn't pass it properly at all. Second half we improved, but had no cutting edge. The lack of width in our team is really evident, we badly need Walcott in the side right now, and thankfully he's back after the break.
Everyone up front was anonymous today.
Sagna , and the defence played well.
The difference in these games, as it has been for umpteen years, is the conviction and belief. Basically summed up by the second half. United are absolute pony and play shit on a stick, but they went for it in the decisive moment. Our team never did and it just led to god knows how many Bendtnerish anguished faces after playing it across or in front of goal. Talking of Bendtner. Quite why he came on ahead of Gnabry is anyone's guess.
We were the better team which is testament to how bad they are!Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
1st half from us was a complete disgrace, it wouldn't be unfair to fine the players a months wages for that performance, it was that bad.
I really hate losing to that lot. They have the Indian sign over us.
I don't think we deserved that. We were the better team in the second half and had 4 gilt edged chances from crosses into the box. Three from Sagna and 1 through the middle that Ozil just didn't show enough bravery to get to.
But what it does show is that we just can't concede the first goal against big teams. We are a good side but just don't have the pace and quality to recover a deficit.
Ozil has been poor of late. Nothing went right for him and missed so many passes that you wouldn't expect.
End of the day aside from the corner they only opened us up once. From Rooney.
Sadly we conceded the all important first goal.
No matter. We are still top of the league.
Our response to this is the key point. The players must not forget what they achieved this week. And they must put this blip out of their minds.
Lastly Cazorla looks tired and Ozil doesn't look fresh. We really need our pace forwards back ASAP.
Wenger must must buy in January or he'll let a golden opportunity to win this season pass by.
3 big matches in a week, too small squad and our kryptonite ground (like the stadium of light for Citeh?). Disappointed but not depressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Poor team selection?....hardly like he had much choice really with the team he picked.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Shame we didn't have mertesacker, rosicky, podolski, AOC, walcott available.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Sometimes you just get done by an inferior team, just hate that it was their gaff.
Yeah, we didn't perform, but it is soooo fucking annoying to see those cunts in the crowd singing like they're something special.
We'll finish above them regardless this year, or that I'm confident.
Fining them for being ill?.....yeah that's fair....don't be a dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
A disappointing end to what has been an incredibly difficult week. Been saying all season, we need more up front, and the sight of Bendtner confirms that. if we are still in the mix by the time the window opens, we can strengthen and really push on and challenge.
Who knows, if Merts was playing, we may have got the draw - which despite our lethargic play and lack of passing accuracy would have een a fair result.
This was a pure 100% Wenger Old Trafford bottle job.
Fucking ridiculous team to start the game with.... Arteta and Flamini in midfield, move your most prominent midfielder out wide, leave your pace and main driving forward players on the bench (Wilshire and Gnabry).
The team were shocking in the fast half as Wenger completely fucked the team balance all because he has some kind of mental block as the theatre of shit.
We have done well last few weeks but now desperatly need Theo, Podolski and Oxlade back.
Not sure there was a lot wrong with the team selection, the problem was none of them bothered to turn up. They've shown they can deliver in the big games so it's very disappointing to see such a weak display. I can't remember the last time we put in any sort of performance at Old Trafford.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Such a shame but I suppose it's a reality check. Bad Arsenal are still alive and well.
Sign of our progress, for me. The fact that we are by far the biggest game at OT this season shows our progress. Hasn't been the case for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
True but that doesn't excuse shoddy passing and lazy tracking back. If we're struggling now by the end of the season we'll be losing every other week, This isn't just another match it was a chance to set a marker and have the players really believe they can do something special. This defeat will put doubts in their minds now, it's knocked my belief we can win something that's for sure, I expected a decent display at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
TBF, the manager has nothing to play with - which is a massive criticism in itself, but explains team selection.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
I meant it in footballing terms. In terms of sheer fluke, Utd had the upper hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
If we were shift for 45 mins and only start playing when losing, it means nothing. Wenger record against City, Chelsea, United, is appalling. It is not bad luck my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Don't think the players out there were ill, or else they'd be in bed wrapped in cotton wool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
United weren't great, only problem is that we didn't particuarily turn up in attack. No pace at all, we really missed Theo and The Ox.
Spawny goal to give away. Could have done better for it but those type of goals do go in through the course of the season. We will conceed at times, the key is to fight back from it and unfortunately we didn't really show any ability to - very lethargic. Pretty certain had they not scored that it would have ended in a draw so I'm not really worried about Utd and Moyes over the course of the season. Play like that against a team more up for it than we were today and they would have lost.
All in all very meh. Losing this match isn't going to define our season - the key is to bounce back immediately with a strong showing in our next hopefully with a lot of more players having returned. We're still 5 points clear of them and a lot of our other rivals so it's not the end of the world.
2 out of 3 ain't bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
I think the display reflected the tired legs and minds. For me this is what happens when you gamble with squad size rather than something to beat the players with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Really negative tactics by wenger, who was banking on another Dortmund smash and grab.
We are better than united this year and should have gone there with a line up that would take the game to them from the first minute onwards.
Everyone would say we lack pace but why we didn't use Gnabry? We could have use him out wide instead of Ramsey.:coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
So the fact that our whole squad woke up during the night complaining of nausea and this kept two players out of the starting line up is not in any way significant. Stomach viruses makes people dehydrated especially if they have had diarrhea or vomitting.....your not going to be at your best if you have lost vital fluids. Yes we have played a lot of games in a week, but i don't think it's a coincidence that both Ozil and Cazorla looked totally lethargic out there and couldn't string a pass together.
Yeah,spot on. We're miles ahead of Moyes' randomness but at this level if you don't play at 100% you can be caught out. Result ad nothing to do with an ordinary ad very Moyes like Utd, everything to do with our ack of a performance. This is like losing to Crystal Palace, a slip up but we won't do it too many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I must admit I do wish we had signed Rooney. That **** does such a brilliant job for the team.
He should have brought him on much sooner granted, but to be fair why take the risk of starting with an 18 year old in a game like this......for me no doubt at all that Rosicky and Mertesacker would have started if they were fit and they were the big misses today without doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Old criticisms are sad after we have all been proved 100% wrong. We were superior in every department and yet we were really below par. So an ordinary team grabbed a surprise result. Happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Their midfield is absolute poo. It's all about conviction and belief. Wilshere, Gnabry and Sagna were the only ones to show it in the attacking third my view. When you get in those positions you have to go 100% for the kill, whether that be a pass or a shot. The rest just didn't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Despite the goal - a good, decisive header from the **** - Merts' absence was not an issue today, as the pre-match concerns might have suggested.