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Good set of tennis.
Disappointing performance no doubt about it.
1st Goal - absolute comical error from the immaculate Koscielny - can't stop that.
After that most of the other goals and almost every other chance came from us being ripped apart on that left flank and you have to give Wilshere some stick for adding to that.
Our players were understandable tired. How can they not be after a high energy game on Wednesday night, coming back on Thursday 4am and playing on Saturday morning.
Having said that, we were desperately unlucky with numerous offsides against us, a penalty not given and a disallowed goal.
Our players are looking knackered. We need a top striker in January. Wenger needs to freshen things up.
We can beat almost every other side in this league apart from City and Chelsea.
We've lost today - but its 3 points and we will still be ahead by 2 points even if all other results don't go our way. Wenger needs to remind the players of that.
And the fans need to create one heck of an atmosphere against Chelsea. Win that now and the confidence will be back again in this team.
City are great but we were desperately unlucky.
The most important question now is - hindsight is a great thing. But did we sacrifice midfield security today too much? Wilshere was desperately poor. There's no doubt Walcott should have started as he gives us another striking option and an outlet but should Rosicky have started instead of Wilshere?
Anyway the PL is a marathon and with a weak squad, I suppose we need to give a rest to some players.
Chelsea game crucial now. More for confidence and belief.
Heard about some arguing after the final whistle. That's fine. That's what you need in teams - a winners mentality.
But the team spirit has so far been great in this squad. Get pissed off about it for a day and then Wenger needs to get the players back in and get the spirit back.
Come on you Gunners.
City are too strong, the only hope we have of keeping them at bay is if their dodgy away form continues, otherwise they should comfortably win the league.
Arsenal. :lol:
Way to prove the doubters right.
Hopefully we can bounce back against Chelsea but I fear the wheels are coming off soon enough.
Gifted them four goals. Poor defending.
City are a very good side, but that was just letting them look good.
Very good up top at times today btw. Theo's seconds was lovely.
Plenty more football to be played this season. Hopefully a lesson learned....we need to buy real quality in Jaunary though.
Giroud ain't clinical enough and that's the difference.
In a game of few chances you need to take your chances but we didn't. A top class striker a must.
Navas was outstanding for them. Came off the bench and ripped us apart.
Only saw the 2nd half. Thought we actually played OK. Looked good going forward, lack a real clinical striker and City are just too good going forward. Have to get a result against Chelsea.
And Monreal is usually so good but was shocking today.
I'll go with that to a point. But when all the analysis; all the arguments and regrets are put aside. We are not strong enough. Yet. I will still hope that we can build on an obvious improvement this season. But there has been no fundamental change at AFC for the time being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknight02
Had nothing whatsoever to do with luck. But nothing will be done about it because we've just witnessed a game in "the best league in the world(TM)" - BT Sports gushing - their three monkeys covering their eyes, ears and nose.Quote:
Having said that, we were desperately unlucky with numerous offsides against us, a penalty not given and a disallowed goal.
Horrible ref... 2 goals and a penalty he took away from us, on top of that their were a couple of wrong offsides, that would have given us something dangerous (Monreal in the box who could have given a free Giroud the ball for example). Add citys offside goal and the penalty who shouldn't have been given.
Some really bad mistakes defensively, but with a proper ref, it would have been 6-4 for us. We're still top of the league :bow:
Agree about Giroud. He's good but he's no Aguero, RvP or Suarez.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Out squad depth up front was rather summed up by Bendtner coming off the bench.
linesmen were atrocious. Definate pen to us for handball, 2 good goals chalked off for nonoffside. Not much else left to say. Great game of football, city sem to score from any half chance they have. I cannot criticise our players bar wilshere.
Who also scored a goal that was *offside*.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters To Santa
I have mentioned this like a gazillion times, never starts Wilshere in the flank. Either put him in midfield or bench him, he doesn't give anything from a wide area (defensive or offensive).
Giroud has been shit in a few weeks now, finally reached his ceiling IMO. Good striker for 4th place but you will not win the league with him. I have no problem if we start Bendtner against Chelsea next week. I don't care how but Wenger must bring in a new CF to take over from Giroud, I have enough watching him huffing and puffing in the penalty box.
:coffee:
Chelsea will beat us IMO, that's 3 poorish results on the trot now so confidence will be low and the players all look tired already (didn't see today's game but they've looked tired for a couple matches now).
I never felt we'd get anything against City and thought at best we'd get a point against Chelsea so I felt the Everton game was key, sadly we dropped points in that one.
The lack of a quality striker has become apparent recently, whilst Giroud works hard and makes some nice touches he's just not ruthless in front of goal and against the better teams it will show.
Winning big games aren't the be all and end all but what they do give you is momentum and belief.
You only have to look at Aguero; Negredo; Suarez to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
It was offside wasn't it? Anyway. Bentner is 'ok' too but ok doesn't win you the PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
It's very hard to compee with squads like City and Chelsea but a top class, clinical striker gives you a chance and we don't have one.
Not a fan of Wilshere, he gets a free ride from many because he's English and has come through the ranks, but too often he's poor, he has the odd game where he performs but those are few and far between, I personally believe he believes his own hype.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknight02
Barkley guy at Everton looks twice the player he is IMO.
Ozil apparently much passed off after the match. We need to improve our options up front or his signing will have been for nothing, just to keep us basically where we have been for the last 8 seasons, almost there.
Always rated Navas, his homesickness use to be a problem but after he got over that he was a player who was always good enough for a top club. Shame we never signed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Agree about Giroud, have watched him carefully in recent matches and whilst he works hard and put himself about he's literally no threat to the goal.
Cant see us getting a result against Chelsea.
Because Jack Wishere done feck all to protect his wing back. But of course Monreal will take the blame, Jack was faultless today. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
I have to disagree. 42M should buy you a game changer. He is simply not making a difference against teams with players of his value. He has lifted the team, but we are entitled to be slightly disappointed in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
You could bet your ass that Mourinho already have everything wrapped up for their visit next week. Doesn't take an expert to understand how poor is our wing play. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
LOL - forgot about that one, yeah, we had so much chalked off it's hard to keep track of it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbdFShkIgAAnWF5.jpg
BFG getting angry at Ozil for not going up to the away fans
No, it wasn't. It was level. Sometimes you get it, at city you obviously don't. But no such qualms waving on city's second offside goal - that was fine of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters To Santa
You can't blame him, playmaker needs movement in front of him. You won't get when your CF and WF is immobile players. Replace Giroud with Aguero and Jack with a real WF and you will get the best out of Ozil. Ozil is never a one man team, he style of play is completely dependent on players in front of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBK
Me neither, Mourinho is a better tactician that Wenger, Wenger has never beaten him. We're top of the league and yet few really believe we can beat these sides, I think it reflects badly on the manager, what he needs is captains on the pitch like we use to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Watching that Vieire Keane thing this week and hearing how he talked made you realise what players like him brought on and off the pitch, Wenger needs players like this in big games.
Wilshere is also shit in goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I get you. And I am not blaming the player. He is a player who will bring out the best in real talent. If we don't have the talent to maximise what Ozil does then he was the wrong player to spend 42m on.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Don't like seeing that to be honest, especially when the player doing it forms part of the defence that conceded 6. I'd be pointing fingers at him saying you guys are hardly shining examples of how to perform.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
By all means do it during a match but not afterwards, that's the manager's job.
Very true, very overrated English player IMO, he's decent but nothing more. Barkley kid ran rings round him last week and he's younger and less experienced. England should be looking at him as the future of England not Wilshere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wilshere puts in far too many sub par performances IMO, he's done very little to warrant the hype about him.
Video of the BFG and Ozil incident
https://vine.co/v/h2DXPO3LUWp
We could start with rotation, Ozil can easily replaced by Cazorla in CAM. Not sure why Wumger persist with tired players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Jack was awful today. Really off the pace.
I do hope he's doing a Ramsey.
Giroud played so well as a link man today, but had two chances to get us in the game.
Whats frustrating is that we're so nearly there...just lacking that extra yard, extra bit of pace, extra bit of luck.
If we spend in january, we'll win the fucker. No doubt in my mind.
Jack wasn't too bad for me, he still set up Giroud with that chance which he fluffed, and did his best to drive forward.
Got shit towards the end, but thats expected when everyone else has given up
Should we have had a penalty? In my view, i said straight away it was a pen. The ball travelled a long way before thier player thighed it on to his arm.
Problem is that Cazorla is not on his game. Its funny, but I was happier knowing we had Vermaelen to come on than I would have been with any MF substitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla