Title challenge :rose:
Sack Wumger, shit manager. :censored:
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Title challenge :rose:
Sack Wumger, shit manager. :censored:
More of Wenger's negative bullshit that he's introduced this season. This team is better than Wenger's ability to manage it.
Didn't watch the game after I saw team sheet. Knew it would only wind me up.
Happy with the point to be honest, keeps us in contention for 4th.
Arteta was diabolical and has been for a long time. Just runs around in circles now.
Definitely need to replace him in the summer.
shite first half and poor defending for second goal. one plus though is Mesut Ozil. he was outstanding. poor result but lets face it, we weren't going to win every game. need to go on another superb run again. thats our first drawn game since Chelsea. pretty good run that.
oh and city drew there also. crap result, and lots of work needed on training ground before palace. huge run coming up. Up the Arsenal
Kneejerk or not, Wenger should leave at the end of the season.
To his (or Steve Boulds) credit we are top of the league for now....but fuck me the ticket prices, average footballers, poor tactics, shit play and 8 years or is it 9 year and counting of zero trophies should surley mean he needs to just fuck off.
Tonight was purely on him.. awful awful team balance... still didnt change it when it was clear as fuckign day it wsnt working and then the three subs....lol you can not make that up...diabolical.
Draw may as well be a loss with our run of games coming up.
Shit first half, done fuck all in .
Flamini and Arteta as the 2 midfielders has NEVER worked this season, why does Wenget persist with it ?
Toothless upfront, so why wait until 88 mins to bring on Podolski ?
Shit tactics throughout the game.
Ozil played good though, and Kosc.
This is the reason we will finish 3rd at best.. we didnt even play the first half and I can only blame AW for that. If you get paid 7 million quid to manager a team, you better fire them up for matches like these.
PL :rose:
If you play like Monkeys, you're likely to be rewarded with peanuts. We didn't even deserve the point.
Not buying a striker in the summer has also been what will cost us the title really.
There's no movement, it's all static. This is how vital Feo is to our team.
Had around £40m left, (from the supposed £70m Gazidis said we had, and only spent £32m of) so why didn't we spend it ?
Arteta has always been poor against mobile/dynamic team. He should never start this game, looks unfit IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Red Ribbon
Flamini was stupid with 2 footed tackled but that was never sent off. He didn't catch the player and won the ball first.
Lastly wtf was Wumger thinking? fekin cook! :angry:
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Originally Posted by fakeyank
yeah cos Fergie or mourinho etc win every single match. bad result tonight but lets not go overboard. we're still top (for now) and at worst at the weekend will be 1 point behind. hardly time to call for Wenger to be sacked.
Terrible terrible first half performance with a completely inept and negative team selection.
Played right into their hands. No urgency, no pressing and no hassling in the first half. Southampton players were under no pressure and passing it around at will. Of course that will build confidence for them.
Wenger has to take the blame for that team selection.
Why oh why is Podolski not being trusted? If you don't start him at least give him 22 minutes (haha!) to try and make a difference.
We conceded two really poor goals. Both down to terrible defending.
After going down to ten men and considering that Southampton could have been 3-0 up at the end of the first half, you'd take a point.
I don't think our title challenge is over.
But hopefully this result brings us back down to Earth now.
Gotta pray that this week's results go for us.
Criminal chance to put some daylight before the February and March runs wasted.
Perhaps this will at least spur Wenger into action in the January transfer market.
Shit performance but I'll take the point given how the match panned out.
Always disappointing to concede top spot, especially as we've lead almost the whole way. These results can happen so I'm not overly downbeat, Southampton is a tricky game and City dropped points here too.
Need a response against Palace and a convincing one as well. Performances have been fairly stale for a while now but we've been getting the results, lets hope this is a kick up the arse.
I thought Ramsey was fit? What happened to Jack, is he injured? Arteta can't play with Flamini beside him in the middle. Unfortunately the only person who doesn't know that is Wenger. What will he have to say about this I wonder? Lacked a little bit sharpness? Why doesn't he ever say lacked a little bit clue about tactics?
Flams and Arteta has only worked once and that was the first game against Napoli. Since then, we've seen it a few times and we've looked really bad and I would have thought Wenger would have seen enough of the combination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Hats off to Ozil. Even though we lost, I saw him at least attempt to really bring the game to Southampton. Running with the ball and trying to will something to happen.
Giroud is shit! Gnarby shouldn't be playing either. He had that one great game but that's it for him. I don't see how he can get starts ahead of Podolski from here on. He's still young and has time.
Was Rosicky fit? He should have played instead of Arteta.
Yes, Wenger is a right chef!Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
now reports from goal.com that ramsey is out for another 6 weeks with a tendon problem
Rushed back too soon ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
Fucking hell :ilt:
We werent that bad i think. Giroud and Arteta just decided not to show up and that put pressure on everybody else.
Özil had a good performance, had a couple of 42m moments, hopefully that will make the haters appreciate him a bit more.
Once again the ref is not a fan, his mistakes led to the first goal, Mert didnt even touch him at the freekick that led to a goal were Fonte were clearly pulling Monreal down. Southampton 12 freekicks no cards (or i think they got one in the end?), Arsenal 4 freekicks 1 yellow and 1 red.... Did we have a case when Giroud were pulled down? Didnt see it because the stream lagged.
To look at the bright side:
Mertescielny partnership havent lost in 2 years :bow:
No, they dont.. but their players turn up for every game. Our first half was pathetic and we didnt seem interested. I do not see Fergie and Mourinho's teams coming out, as if they are playing the sunday leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
100% down to the manager tonight. Yet again we see fear from him when we need a bit of fire. Negative team selection, subs pathetic beyond belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
Another triumph for the medical team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
Should we tinker with SS role, swap role between Ozil and Cazorla? The former is so goal shy, he would never try to shoot or take on a player in the penalty area. Cazorla is so much better, two footed and will not hesitate to do what Ozil doesn't. :coffee:
The card bias is getting a bit crazy now. We often get kicked to bits (not this match, but in many others) and end up with more cards. Definite yellow for that foul on Ozil when he was driving into the box, ignored. Would have been a yellow for one of ours all day long.Quote:
Southampton 12 freekicks no cards (or i think they got one in the end?), Arsenal 4 freekicks 1 yellow and 1 red
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Originally Posted by fakeyank
yeah except chelsea's defeats at stoke, sunderland etc were because chelsea didn't turn up. look tonight was a bad performance and AW got some things wrong, but given its the end of january and we are currently still top, he's probably getting a lot more right then wrong. Mourinho's teams have barely turned up at times this season so your point is bollocks quite frankly. all teams have off days, its making sure they are few and far between
Not today. Ozil showed some drive and guts today. Took on a few players and went for a shot that got deflected on to the bar. He was really trying today. I don't think he was the problem today. Flamini and Arteta were awful and couldn't control the middle or win the ball back. Giroud was poor up front and we had no options when we got the ball forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
You can understand why both Flamini and Arteta started, with Rosicky, Wilshere and Ramsey out. But as the match went on and it became clear, once again, that they don't work together, that we especially didn't need them today and that an attacking change would really have turned it in our favour, Wenger's fascination with that dud of a combo became all the more psychotic.
Wenger's inflexibility and refusal to react to clear deficiencies on the pitch cost us, but we still had over ten minutes to get a winner when Flamini basically begged for a red card. He's useful in the odd game, but his being a non-footballer was eventually going to harm us.
Cazorla was probably the worst player on the pitch though. Just catastrophic in every area (apart from his goal). The full-backs were off their game too and Gibbs was missed again in quick-paced, high-intensity game. Wenger chooses the wrong games to play Monreal and rest Gibbs.
Koscielny, Mertesacker and Szczesny played as they have all season, but were let down by idiots around them tonight. Ozil did step it up in the second half though.
Hopefully, it's a one-off performance where nearly everything went wrong. Even then, we did get a point and could probably have nicked a win. You can't win every game, especially away from home, so they'll have to make up for this blip in the coming games.
For tonight though:
WUMger :doh:.
Flamini :doh:.
Cazorla :doh:.
10-0 against Palace will do on the weekend.
Arsene confirms Ramsey has had a set back. fuck
About time we start playing Chambo as 2nd midfield IMO. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
We haven't won shit in 9 years, yet Ollie still believes, the Cup is always half full and the waiter is on standby with the bottle. FYI Chelsea do lose occasionally, but they have a few pots to show for it.
So we have Walcott and Ramsey out longer term, what about Rosicky and Wilshere? Please god don't say they are out for 2weeks! Now even flamini is out for 3 matches. All perfect timing.
If Chelsea were top of the table with only 2 points separating the top 3 anytime after new year, you can bet your last dollar that his team wouldve turned up. Again, I will bring this up to you... it doesnt matter if we win or lose as long as we give 100% in every match. Ask yourself if we have today or even in the last few matches. Sure, we nicked some close matches recently but did our team play 100% in those games? Sooner or later, being a slacker catches up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist
I dont care if we win the league or not, as long as the entire footballing staff give their all! All I am asking and I did not see that today or in the last few games... going into the run of fixtures that we are going into, this was a MUST turn up game, which unfortunately we did not! Wenger shouldnt be sacked for this, he just shouldnt be gifted another contract right now.
so what if i think the cup is half full? thats our first draw since the chelsea game. we've taken 16 points out of 18 since losing to city and knocked spurs out the cup and safely in the 5th round. why the fuck would i think my glass is half empty and go mental at one draw? poor performance yes, I've already said I've thought that but holy fuck calling for him to be sacked etc now and going over the top in moaning is just downright stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Perfect time to crash isn't it? Wumger ain't signing anyone neither (except for himself), perfect timing IMO :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
FFS. Now even my speculation on potential Arsenal injuries comes true.
Number one fucking problem at the club.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Ramsey's season :rose:.
Midfield was the place where we had options too :lol:. Now we're down to just Arteta as a central midfielder.
Time to hijack the Cabaye move tbh.
And time for Draxler to come home.
Yeah, Draxler is making sense now. But a bit pointless without a striker.
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We still have Bendtner, much better striker than Giroud. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Lol, if Giroud (who is off form but still scoring) gets injured we are fucked, fucked, fucked, fucked and fucked again.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
The reason we'll finish 3rd is that the two teams we're trying to compete with have the infinite money cheat on.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
We're top of the league, we've won our last 7 games, the first set back and everyone wets themselves.
Tsk.