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Worst case scenario would be 1 point off the top. :coffee:
You can lose all the so-called "big games" and still win the league.
Today's a big blow but in the scheme of things we've won 1/lost 1 against Liverpool.
When we beat United optimism will be up again and we can focus on having a decent chance at winning the league again. :)
Even if we beat uNITED I very much doubt we can afford to lose the games against City and Chelsea and still finish top. I think we will do very well to finish 3rd this season.
We're not winning the league I don't care what anyone says, this team doesn't have what it takes under the current management, we've got a proven record.
Whether we're going for the league or not is irrelevant, it's just a game we have to win by any which way now.
We're not going to win the league though.
We do need a response to Liverpool. We've responded so far in the recent past. This is something that ought not be too testing, but with that monkey on our back, it will be a bigger challenge.
A draw won't be good enough - it has to be a win. And I'm not even talking about the title here, we aren't winning that, but we need to keep moving forward, because as miserable as the Liverpool result is today, we are moving in the right direction.
This mini run of tough games is nothing compared to what we have next month.
The seeds of the collapse have been planted and today has washed away any belief I had.
You can afford to lose against City and Chelsea if you beat lesser teams and they don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
The odds are against us but you'd be a fool to say we have no chance at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
That's the spirit Zimm. It amazes me why you never went into football management with that sort of positive attitude to inspire the troops. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Anyway a win against United (our bogey team for ages) is now a must win. The title is looking unlikely as we've got hard fixtures to come but it's still a realistic possiblity. Let's not all just throw away all the good work we've done up to now on the basis of one terrible result.
Even if we didn't win, 12 more games to go after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
True, underdogs never win anything!Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesy bites
If I was manager I'd believe, but only because I'd be trying to improve the team by signing quality players and using tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
I don't believe because of Wenger, he doesn't have what it takes and won't do the necessary.
I know and in terms of pure points, you are right but after defeats like this you've just got to get a win as soon as possible after it. It's the only way it can be forgotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
All I can say is there's a lot of fools going around at the moment then.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
I'll explain in layman's terms. 3 points against a small team is the same as 3 points against a big team. If we lose against City/Chelsea but beat another team that they lose to then it works out the same in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
I misread the post I quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
Focussed on the 'you' and reckoned you meant 'you' in the context of you supporting another club and providing comfort to us.Quote:
You can afford to lose against City and Chelsea if you beat lesser teams and they don't.
I know what I mean.
In summary: my bad.
Understood - no worries. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Gooner till I die, only posting here to offer some optimism in a place I like to visit but has a hive mentality of doom. Lots of funny posts too though, which is why I sometimes like to read here. :)
You poor bastard - I'm one of the optimists!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
Buy alloys instead of hubcaps.Quote:
We do need a response to Liverpool.
I don't think we will either but do you think that should be the benchmark for success this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
There's been a clear improvement this year so far, a total collapse would disappoint me but part of that improvement has been our reaction to setbacks. If we can react on Wednesday and get a result (which really has to be a win) then while I'm still not convinced we'll win the title we should be a lot closer than the last few years. It will show improvement and that the club are heading in the right direction.
Yep, I kind of think the same, next months schedule is absolutely brutal and If I am honest we need all the points we can get now. If we don't up our game, next month we could find ourselves scrapping for a place in the top 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think the problem is even though we have improved we'll never improve enough to be successful under Wenger IMO, he won't adapt and go out and sign players for example when it's clear we need them, he's happy to sit and wait and trust in his team, doesn't work, when you're missing something go out and find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
To be fair his trust in his players has seen us do very well so far this year although I agree there is an obvious gap up front and his failure to fill it leaes us wanting. I'd be very disappointed with a real collapse but if we respond and run Chelsea and City close then I'll be fairly content with the progress IF we push on in the summer.
No idea what expect from this squad after that beating. Take each game as it comes.
I still think we can win it, maybe I've just been driven mad after today's game but I'm starting to see this as a setback rather than a collapse.
We could see it coming I guess, but the team will know that they can't get away with that shit anymore this season and hopefully will knuckle down again.
I don't know :shrug:
Couldn't really be a collapse after 1 game. We'll know more on Wed night.
A loss against Pool and win against Utd means 3 points.
Would be better than two draws.
Hope is not lost.
#positives
It's funny isn't it? The small margins in football. A smart investment in January and would have reinforced our title bid and given us the belief that we could seriously challenge for it this year. We didn't and now we've just lost all of the momentum of the first half of the season. We have to avoid being pulled into the 4th place battle at all costs. :banghead:Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Boring match and no win but still only 1 point off the top.