Rumours are circulating that he's on his way, so..
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Rumours are circulating that he's on his way, so..
The ultimate meh. At least he's not a has-been, because you can't be a has-been if you weren't anything in the first place.
It'd be an odd signing. If we want to sign a mediocre RB, Aurier would be cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I'll just leave these here:
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-ma...ul_take_ons#90
I added his passing to that comparison to get an accurate picture.
I added the possession score 7 times. Seems I was right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
So a journeyman defender who can't pass and excels at losing the ball? Bit unfair on Jenks to be be passed up for this guy.
Good player, not a massive upgrade on Sagna but a better player, esp in the final third.
I think I remember that mofo from Pro Evo! He developed into a bit of a beast. Snap him up! :lol:
Whoever we get needs to provide a ball retaining outlet, Sagna got so much of the ball - not that he could do much with it. Can't see how this guy gives us what we need. Not unless we are going to change the way we play and put a much lower reliance on the full backs.
We really need to get the fullback position correct. We can’t afford to have a weak side that always gets targeted by other teams. Someone that’s all action and can help us attack would go a long way in helping our attack but we need someone that can hit the ground running on defence. Santos wasn’t cut much slack and Monreal isn’t rate much on here either.
On the plus side, at least we know Newcastle would fold faster than Superman on laundry day, if we put any kind of offer in...
Who is he?
He's playing now for the French. Workmanlike at best.
He offers much more in attack which is crucial nowadays. I know he can be dodgy in defence but he plays for Newcastle. Without disrespecting them too much, they're shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Under a settled back 4 and Steve Bould coaching him he could turn out to do really well. I've spoken to a Newcastle fan and he rates him highly.. generally you can tell whether a player is good based on how the fans feel when the player leaves..
Debuchy is a lousy defender, he's even managed to look ropey for France Defensively which really should be a cause for concern.
I have never rated him, he can get forward but he's ya classic average player. Would prefer Aurier or even Clyne of Southamption as they both have lots of potential and could do a job now. Debuchy comes across as a stop gap type signing.
Do Metro reports by a Metro Bot have a history of legitimacy?
They get a lot of their material directly from Wayne Gooney so their legitimacy speaks for itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
He's 28 as well, not exactly a long term solution.
I despair....
I dont know why you guys are disappointed? Dbuchy is a betetr RB than Sagna, 3 years younger and offers us more in the final third. He would go straight in without needing time to adapt and wouldnt unsetlle out back 4.
id be really happy with him.
Got so sick of seeing Sagna blow 95% of everything he did going forward, it was a serious problem for us. Always thought that spending a few quid on a decent fullback that could defend but was also an asset going forward would be huge for us. All that negative backpassing shit and break down of play due to abject crossing could be reversed. If this guy can do it then great. Didn't look like it the few time I have seen him for Newcastle and he was shite the other day for France, in fact reminded me a lot of Sagna with his wastefulness and lack of ability going forward. Maybe he was having a bad day.
There is a reason why he is ahead of Sagna for the French team and i really think he'll improve us. I have seen him play and one of his best games was last season away to Man ure where he was fantastic throughout the game.
Yeah, I'm still silently hoping that we grab Aurier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Sagna was actually pretty good for us going forward last season. His crossing in particular somehow managed to improve a lot, it was Giroud's wastefulness and a general lack of bodies in the box that prevented him from notching up a few more assists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I still think a defender's primary job is to defend and with that in mind we were never going to buy someone better than Sagna. No point slitting wrists over it but Sagna is going to be a big loss. We're going to have to rethink our whole strategy, right from Szczesny lumping the ball forward to the right for Sagna to win the first header. If we play more down the left, Gibbs is going to have to grow some balls and be more decisive in the final 1/3.
Dont have a problem with Debuchy's age. Still have Jenks waiting in the wings who could be ready in a couple of years. If not, we sign someone else.
Still have reservations over Debuchy's defensive capabillities though. For all the stick Sagna is now getting over his crossing, he was/is a brilliant defender and I think we will miss that.
I'm ok with us signing La Bouche.. he can be my lover..
I tend to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
As far as I can see, we would be replacing Sagna with a player inferior defensively, a smidgen younger and a little more astute with the ball at his feet, but as you suggest....Sagna was no small part of that solid back line we had last season (minus the infamous embarrassments) and his crossing was very good. That is without getting into his aerial prowess and his ability to play across the back line which he had to do a number of times.
It is the sort of status quo, underwhelming signing we have become used to over the Arsenal. At least Richards is 25 and has the excuse of injury and being behind a club happy to stock pile players.
Well, at least he won't suffer a culture shock if we sign him. It's never pretty seeing a fullback out of their depth and exposed. With Prem experience, he should know what he's in for.
If we're really in for Sanchez (:lol:) we shouldn't really need a more attack minded rb on the right. A player like Theo whose not much of a dribbler may benefit from more support but I also wonder how that will effect the defensive side because Theo plays a lot closer in the final third these days. We shall see what what happens but would have preferred for us to have signed someone earlier before Sagna left so we're not left in the dark and unknowing.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...om-Twitter-bio
twitter :lol:
He confirmed that he's coming to Arsenal to a French TV station after the match yesterday.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/05/mathie...nsfer-4787604/
7.9 million is the fee.Quote:
‘Yes, I will be joining Arsenal for next season,’ he told a reporter from TF1 television following France’s World Cup exit to Germany.
Anyway, welcome Mathieu.:hug::hug:
We may have had some doubts over his value but now that's he's our player (all but), it's time to support the guy 100% and defend him against naysayers.
Debuchy :bow:
Always rated him
13th best player in the premier league last season*
*according to the whoscored.com rating system
The fact he plays over Sagna for France gives me confidence that hes a generally underrated player, or, that Sagna is overrated. Which one?
Probably confirms that Deschamps is a bit of a pillock more than anything. This is the same guy who didn't start Kosicinely despite being the PL's best defender, instead preferring Sakho and Varane, the latter of which doesn't get too many matches sitting on the bench of Madrid. And who caved into the media pressure of dropping Giroud after the Nigeria game and starting Greizemann, in the process losing Giroud's hold up play and industry and Greizemann's off the bench impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by ARightTouch
Sagna is the better player imho and removing the bitterness of his cuntish move, I don't think many people on here would disagree with that. However it's not that big of a gap and Debuchy should be able to do a steady reliable job there without needing to be babysat. In the meantime a more long term target like Bellerin can develop so in that sense it's a good move. Besides, there aren't many available instant-ready fullbacks who are as good as Sagna so you've got to take what's available at times.
Good post...agree with you about Deschump. As always i guess time will tell if Debuchy will be a good signing or not, id say hes got a lot to prove though which may be a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
When we signed Sagna, he was part of the Auxere defence which conceded something like 60 goals and finished 17th (or something like that) and a lot of fans were skeptical but he turned out to be an excellent defender.
Debuchy wil be a perfect replacement and will offer us a bit more in the final third.
Debuchy, excellent defender and good going forward. The best right back playing in the PL today, by quite a distance. Outstanding hair, every bit as good as Sagna's.
Good good. Hope every one is taking notes here. This is going to be the party line that the entire board will follow from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
His wife is also named Ludivine (like Sagna) but she isn't a looker though :doh: