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Tough away fixture in which we got battered last time. If our attack pisses around like the last 2 games, we will be massacred by them.
Bench Giroud as he is useless these days.
Chezza
Debuchy Per Kos Chambers
Ozil Flamini Ramsey
Ox Sanchez Santi
Subs: Ospina, Monreal, Giroud, Rosicky, Wilshere, Podolski
We probably won't be as bad as we were in this fixture last season, but I'm sure we'll try.
I'm hoping Ramsey sets out to prove a point in this one. If he doesn't, I don't hold out much hope of getting a point in this one. I suspect Everton will be set up to go for the throat, knowing that no matter how good we are in various parts of the pitch, we have nothing at all to offer up front.
We're significantly better than Everton in every aspect.
0-3
Ox must play - he's our best player at the moment.
Giroud must not play. Give him a couple of months off and then one more chance to make the grade. Alexis up front please.
Would be harsh to drop Chambers after his recent performances, a good headache for Wenger.
Ozil on the left, Ox on the right, Alexis through the centre with Ramsey behind. Replace Ozil with Campbell after 60 mins if need be. I think we'll kill them.
Giroud up top. I think we'll struggle badly. I hope Giroud does not play but I suppose he will.
Özil hatrick and unveiling our new DM :scarf:...ohQuote:
Originally Posted by Sterling Archer
Ospina still injured afaik so Martinez on bench, Monreal will start BFG on bench classic WUMger.
1-1 put a fork in our season it's done, Wenger out! :angry: etc
Would it be worth trying chambers in the DM position if merts and kos are to return...???
Arteta will probably be out so maybe it would be worth giving him a go & bring on flamini to clean up & pick up a yellow in the second half
I'm thinking a counter-attacking 433 is the way to go for this one - field the paciest* front 3 we have available (Alexis, Ox and Campbell would be my choice), with either Ozil or Cazorla behind them picking out quick passes (or maybe even Rosicky, if we want to sacrifice a bit of the precision passing for a bit more relentless running and aggression? I actually quite like that idea). As counter-attacking generally involves sitting a bit deeper than normal, and keeping the team relatively compact, while you wait for the other side make the first move, I'm not sure I'd actually bother with a pure defensive midfielder? I'd maybe stick a couple of B2B midfielders in front of the defence, who are good at turnover play, and can turn defence into attack quickly once we've won it...
----------------Szcz----------------
Debuchy---BFG/Chambers---Kos---Monreal
-----Ramsey---Rosicky---Wilshere-----
--------Ox-----Alexis----Campbell-----
* pacey player must also be competent.
I'd take a draw right now TBH, don't really fancy us getting maximum points out of this as we still seem to be finding fitness and form...
Hopefully we pass our first proper test in the PL. We should be expecting to win this if we are serious about challenging. Much will hinge on the ref as usual. If they are allowed to kick us out of our game without picking up cards then we'll of course struggle. Any team would under such circumstances. If the ref rescinds the "Arsenal don't like it up 'em" rule then we should have too much for them. Kevin Friend is the ref, only reffed us once last year in our 3-1 win over the Hammers. Was pretty much even with his cards and decisions. Might be okay.
2-2
I like it.....though I might just replace Wilshere for Flamini to make it a tad less experimental.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
For me I would play with OX & Cambell down the flanks with Flamini & Ozil replacing Rosicky & Wheelchair. Sanchez up top has to happen now - it cannot be any worse than having Giroud or Sonogo.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
Same here. It was only pre-season but these two showed twice the energy, twice the desire, twice the ambition in their play. They create unexpected problems for the opposition, whereas our alternatives are painfully predictable and easy to contain. It's great to see both Ox and Campbell willing and able to take on a defender with pace and beat them instead of always looking for the safe option. Defenders hate it, managers have to change their game plan to deal with it. It gives us, instead of the opposition, the advantage.Quote:
For me I would play with OX & Cambell down the flanks
As for the central man, Giroud doesn't get in the box anyway so it;d be no loss having a smaller, pacey, trickier front man like Alexis. Ozil and Ramsey in behind, Flamini (we need better) as the stopper (which is why I'm all for dumping big cash on Pogba, he can break things up but he's also composed and can pass a ball). We might be a bit light in the middle but when you have Alexis and the two wide men as outs then you can survive it.
Of course I'm not a football manager, none of us are, but having watched Giroud and Sanogo so far it's so obvious how our play breaks down around them and how they end up giving the opposing defenders and easy ride.
No place for Cazorla either, his stats are okay if you check them but that just goes to show how stats aren't everything. He's been average for a year now.
I;d also keep Chambers in the team considering he's been our best defender so far. Monreal at the back is a real problem. He's done okay defensively, but that will change when he faces a bit of pace, but when Gibbs is missing we have nothing going forward on that side. Problem area that one, considering the amount of injuries Gibbs picks up. I'd splash the cash right now on Clyne from Southampton. He's going to be a super star - get him before the price becomes Luke Shaw ludicrous.
But isn't Clyne a right back? - Still agree with you though, would have bought him ahead of Debauchery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
According to Southampton fans he can play anywhere across the back and for them he's the best of the bunch. Saw a quote where they were lamenting the sale of Chambers but tool consolation in the fact at least nobody grabbed Clyne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
Think Debuchy has slotted in well and been very solid. Would rather have him to Sagna, especially now Sagna is a massive cunt.
1st big test of the season - let's hope Wumgers decided not to wear nappies in the big gams this year. It's all very well using money as a excuse to not compete with the Chavs & Gypos but Everton should be a team we look to beat home & away if we want to compete for the league.
Ches
Debuchy
Mertesacker
Koscielny
Monreal
Ozil
Ramsey
Flamini
Cazorla
Giroud
Alexis
0-3
Schzez
Debuchy
Merts
Kozza
Monreal
Flamini
Ramsey
Ozil
Ox
Campbell
Alexis
With this pace up front we can focus on the defensive side and play on the counter, it would be nice to see chambers playing dm but too much risk involved against a good opponent. Giroud can come in if we need to chase the game in a 442.
Thinking it might be too early in the season for this. Need more crystal palacey games before the cobwebs are gone. Ozil, Alexis, Ramsey on the pitch is going to be exciting though.
Should be a comfortable home win.
---------------Szcz----------------
Debuchy----BFG---Kos---Monreal
---------Ramsey--Chambers----------
-----------------Ozil-------------------
--------Ox-----Alexis----Campbell-----
We're playing against pretty much the last team that spanked us 3-0. Thankfully we don't have Vermaelen anymore and they don't have Barkley and Deulofeu playing. They will exploit our weak points with Lukaku being pushed out to give Monreal a torrid time again. We will get bullied in midfield again with McGeady, Barry and McCarthy steam rollering through midfield.
I suspect Chambers might give way for a Merts return but if we stick him just in front of the back 4 in a 4-1-2-1-2 formation we might stop the bullying and they will have to worry about their lack of pace with Jagielka and Distin up against Alexis and Ox and maybe Campbell later on. Sadly with Poldi not playing we're stuck with Giroud up front. If AW had any balls he'd play something like:
Chezza
Debuchy Merts Kos Monreal
Chambers
Ramsey Ox
Ozil
Alexis Giroud
Don't think he will and I suspect Wheelchair will start with Ramsey pushed further forward and Chambers or Ozil benched.
We aren't playing at home :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
A pubby 1-1 probably, unless we actually go with an attacking team.
Rosicky should play deeper rather than Flamini. He can run around as well as being a footballer. He's our most aggressive tackler too.
I just can't see Flamini in the centre, Cazorla on the left and Giroud up front working effectively at the moment. Too many flaws on the pitch at the same time. WUMger loves the self-harming though.
Podolski has apparently been left out of the match day squad.
The Mail is already running a piece linking him to Colonge on the basis of that alone.
Anyway, we'll win and we'll win well today. Normally we alternate performances at Goodison park and after the horror show last year we're due a good one today.
Szczesny, Debuchy, Mertesacker, Chambers, Monreal, Flamini, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Alexis
Get in!
What a team!!
No Koscielny though
Monreal sucks
No Giroud or Sanogo!! :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Yes! :wave: giroud and Sanogo
Subs: Martinez, Bellerin, Koscielny, Rosicky, Giroud, Cazorla, Campbell
Interesting team. Ox will have to play well to make it work. And Jack will have to have a bit of discipline in the middle. Monreal the weak link of course.
Heavens knows where any of them are playing, but come on!
Glad Giroud is not starting! :)
Wooooo! Sanchez through the middle!
I hope the Sanchez up front experiment is due to him really being ready for the role, and not just because Giroud and Sanogo have looked way off the pace. But I guess either way, it's a risk worth taking.
No Koscielny though, that's a big loss. Not fancying our chances for this but lets see.
Santi benched too and quite right.
Nice!
4231 or 433 with Özil on one of the wings?
Wenger begins every answer very abrasively nowadays. There's always a "Look..." at the start of every sentence.
Arsenal bullied. :sleep:
Is losing to our closest rivals holding us back? I wonder?