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We were wondering whether the FA cup should have been Wenger's parade into a new era or his farewell. Well it's clear now that it should have been his final goodbye.
we are worse than last season, and this performance was utter, utter turd.
Fourth is going to be one almighty struggle this year.
we all know what the problem is, nothing more to say really :shrug:
Utter rubbish.
Can't remember the last competetive game I thought we played well in.
Some time before Christmas I think.
We have the players, but no leadership.
Stuck in a dream that we needn't think about the opposition if we pass the ball well. And that's about it.
About time someone stopped this charade.
Genuinely hoped he would go out on a high.
We are pretty much fucked for the best part of another three seasons.
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Originally Posted by Steve French
No shocks or surprises here, we were soundly beaten by the superior team.
Yet another hopeless effort against a side of quality.
We nearly fucked up the FA cup as well with those two goals we let in! Thank fuck that was Hull and not a good team like Dortmund otherwise we would have been demolished there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
We all know the problem. Clearly nothing has change or will change. Wenger's just completely tactically inept in any big or important game. He can't just tell the players to "play their football" and expect things to work out in the current era of modern football.
That was just horrible and I am starting to really worry about us, we've been awful this season, really awful.
Wenger schooled by Klopp. Latter shows ho to squeeze every last ounce from the players you have available. Dortmund had big names missing tonight, but it made no difference as they out ran us, out passed us and out thought us. Everything right with their game, everything wrong with ours. A tournament for Europe's elite and we get one shot at their goal. Embarrassing. A down to earth manager could get twice as much out of our players.
Players come and go but there's one constant.
Absolute pathetic performance and pathetic tactics from Wenger. We've played sh*t for most part of the season. Too many passengers in the first eleven.
A charade, that's exactly what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
It's funny hearing the commentators ramble on about how out of character the sloppy passing was, but the truth is that it's been going on for 2-3 years now. This Arsenal team are not a possession side, we're nowhere near effective enough with the ball. Infact I don't even know what we are, we have no identity or style.
The slight hope i had for our season after an improved showing against City is well and truly gone now.
We are shit.
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Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
The only way that would be possible is if we had all of the best players in the world.
We have very good players, but to get them winning, they also need a manager capable of guiding them.
It's such a farce when you think about it.
Fuck.
Wenger has continued to try to turn is into Barcelona. Without a messi. Or xavi. Or iniesta. Or busq...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Yeah I've noticed this! "their usual high standards" well like you say we haven't been able to pass all that well for 3 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Men against boys. We were shocking tonight truly absyml. My sunday pub team would have made a better game of it. We are shit under wenger and we will remain the weakest of the top 4/5 teams in the Premier league. Dont be surprised we get turned over in belguim and Turket. Europa league here we come.
Genuinely feel embarrassed for Sanchez. Must be ruing his decision to take a colossal drop in quality.
We need a clean break from Wenger and his mediocre mindset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
well it's interesting that we adapted from one touch passing or two or three touch passing to build a team around Fabregas, the same Fabregas who left three years ago.
What annoys me is that we get pushed back towards our own goal, and then conceed both goals from losing possession in midfield.
Poor Sanchez, he must be regretting the day he turned down Liverpool to join our pile of dog shite. As much as i hate the guy, Mourinho did the best business in the summer. Fabregas and Costa will see them champions with atealest 5 games to spare and possibly the champions league if those two stay fit.
I don't feel embarrassed for him. I wouldn't be embarrassed if I had a cool pad in a swish area of London, a fancy car, a plastic titted up missus, got to play footie instead or work and got paid a fortune for doing it. I'd be pretty made up. Would even boast about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Hasnt it always been thus. Flamini is a poor DM but Arteta is simply atrocious. He is a bloody liabilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
We don't even dominate possession as we used to. Teams used to sit off us but now close us down and because we cut inside, or pass sideways so much we are easily shutdown.
No midfield.
Fucking hell
Arteta :ilt:
Ozil :haha:
Fucking embarrassing.
Is it even about the players?
For me its 100% about one person - Wenger.
Tactically utterly clueless. Has no answer for teams who play us at a high tempo...whether its Liverpool, Chelsea, Dortmund.
What is discussed before games, what are we doing in training.
3 more years of this.......The guy is so comfortable, he will go home to his fine wine, £10m house, and start again tomorrow with his usual bullshit.
Too many shockingly awful performances during the last 5 years to conclude anything but the downfall of a once brilliant, forward thinking manager.
Don't know where to begin. I don't usually comment on the ref, but I thought he was a joke. Can't mask how woeful we were. What exactly are we trying to win with this lot?....I mean seriously....?
Wenger needs to quit with this crazy formation and make a decision between picking Jack or Ramsey. We have other issues, but going back to what we know might yield some positive results. This new formation is killing is and doesn't benefit jack, ramsey or ozil!
When you get outclassed in every way by a superior opponent (Barcelona a few seasons ago/United with Ronaldo) you can't be too upset, but when you contribute to it by being completely hapless in possession, in thought, in energy, in work-rate, it's unacceptable from all involved really.
You can tell when it's going to be a bad day because we fail with two-yard passes from the first minute to the last. It's criminal to constantly mess up at the basics for 90 minutes at this level.
Even as we were getting battered, we still had chances when we somehow strung a move together. Neither Welbeck chance was completely clear-cut and he should be given the benefit of the doubt, but if he continues to miss the target it will become a huge problem. He had another decent game though, considering what he was working with.
Only Wilshere, Welbeck and Szczesny come out of it with some credit. Even though Szczesny made some poor decisions tonight. Bellerin wasn't too bad either in fairness. I'm sure Debuchy would have been just as exposed, as he's always caught high up the pitch.
Wenger needs to make some changes for the weekend because playing out-of-form players or those who those are ineffective when the game quickens is only going to cause more damage. Rosicky, Cazorla, Campbell and even Diaby deserve a shot. What's the point of options if you're going to stick with under-performing favourites?
Arsenal :doh:.
I think we'll get through the group and avoid relegation and administration though.
#wegoagain
Definitely not worth getting up at 4:45am for that.
Wenger is out of his depth. Our records against the better teams now is so poor. Everyone has figured out how to play against us yet wenger sees no need to try and alter our style of play.
I don't think Sanchez thinking how the hell did I end up here should be his first thought.....it should be his second. After how the hell did I not find a blue shirt all night. I think he was just thrown by Arsenal playing in blue.
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Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I agree with most of that.
Apart from the first 5 minutes he was very poor tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
I've had enough of Wenger not playing to the opposition's strengths and weaknesses. This isn't 2004 any more. A mere "do what you do best" team talk will not suffice.