Match Reaction v/s Hull

Leave our club Wenger.. please!

On it goes.

Two wins in the league. Bloody hell. :lol:

wow. Only 2 wins? Didn't realise it was that bad.

Could have been worse. We could have lost to Hull at home. But it's still not good enough.

This club is finished as long as Wenger remains in charge.


He will stay for three more years unless we miss out on CL places and he will leave with all the fans hating him.

Much as I hate to say it, with his 8 million pay check he'll leave as a mercenary.

If only he had a decent amount of pride to apologise and leave. Rapidly losing my love for football watching the same old mistakes year after year and the same pathetic failure to properly develop the team and re same soporific performances

Only entertainment was the novel ways Hull devised to waste time. Otherwise - S H I T

Shit everything by the manager. Very careless from the players. Always worrying going into these games as our lethargic and stupidly over-complicated style of play is very much a confidence booster for supposed underdogs.

Campbell looked okay when he came on. His play is refreshingly direct suggesting he's a bit slow in the head on the training pitch. He'll learn and soon he'll be as impotent as the rest.

Wenger :haha: :haha: :haha:

Just...poor.

Nothing new, same shit, different toilet.

That was absolutely appalling! I never think we can get any shitter but Arsenal prove me wrong every time.

Does anyone on here believe we will ever challenge for the title with Wenger in charge of this team?

Good start for once. But then they equalised and we responded with poor control, passes into empty space, one-twos with no-one and no shots on goal.

Still had enough chances to win at the end, but we shouldn't be leaving it until that late.

We're just an incohesive mess at the moment. Even the players who play well spend 75% of the game making poor decisions and failing with the basics. We seem to have lost the ability to execute the fundamentals of the game. An expensive pub team.

Sanchez the bright spark. Full-backs OK.

Oxlade just abysmal. It's hard to make a case for him to be a regular when he's played that carelessly for most of the season.

Ref MOTM.

Coyle in.

You have to wonder what Wenger sees in these performances week after week to make him stick with his game plan. In his own way he's become as big an enemy of football as Maureen, sucking the joy out of every aspect of the game and replacing it with mind numbing tedium. You could put Ronaldo and Messi in that system and they'd fare no better. It's only when the individual brilliance of a player escapes the suffocation of Wenger that we ever look like scoring. Otherwise we could play for years without getting a goal.

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Originally Posted by Darknight02

Does anyone on here believe we will ever challenge for the title with Wenger in charge of this team?

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Ollie would have, before his breakdown.

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Originally Posted by Darknight02

Does anyone on here believe we will ever challenge for the title with Wenger in charge of this team?

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No chance,the game has moved on ,if the guy really cares he will move aside asap

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You have to wonder what Wenger sees in these performances week after week to make him stick with his game plan. In his own way he's become as big an enemy of football as Maureen, sucking the joy out of every aspect of the game and replacing it with mind numbing tedium. You could put Ronaldo and Messi in that system and they'd fare no better. It's only when the individual brilliance of a player escapes the suffocation of Wenger that we ever look like scoring. Otherwise we could play for years without getting a goal.

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My thoughts exactly.:banghead:

The board are responsible for this, Chips Keswicks statement tells you everything you need to know about the club. How can one man be solely responsible for every aspect of the club in a footballing sense, even beetroot cheeks had some checks and balances.

It's appalling because it emphasises we have a board that doesn't give a fuck about the club or its supporters, for better or worse you backed Wenger by giving him a three year contract, don't just whistle and turn the other way when he doesn't have a plan how is that giving him backing?

Wenger has had it in terms of ideas, tactics, transfer policy everything but he's left to get on with this self destructive behaviour whilst his kingdom crumbles.

If you truly believe this guy is the man for the job than take him hand and stop him twisting in the wind.

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

Good start for once. But then they equalised and we responded with poor control, passes into empty space, one-twos with no-one and no shots on goal.

Still had enough chances to win at the end, but we shouldn't be leaving it until that late.

We're just an incohesive mess at the moment. Even the players who play well spend 75% of the game making poor decisions and failing with the basics. We seem to have lost the ability to execute the fundamentals of the game. An expensive pub team.

Sanchez the bright spark. Full-backs OK.

Oxlade just abysmal. It's hard to make a case for him to be a regular when he's played that carelessly for most of the season.

Ref MOTM.

Coyle in.

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Absolute chaos on the pitch. We have no structure. When failing to do the basics, like passing the ball, we can't pull off the this Total Football shit. Players taking turns to drop deep, move infield, play out wide....we need to cut that crap out when when we're struggling like that. Get the basics down first before trying the complex.

#WengerOut

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You have to wonder what Wenger sees in these performances week after week to make him stick with his game plan. In his own way he's become as big an enemy of football as Maureen, sucking the joy out of every aspect of the game and replacing it with mind numbing tedium. You could put Ronaldo and Messi in that system and they'd fare no better. It's only when the individual brilliance of a player escapes the suffocation of Wenger that we ever look like scoring. Otherwise we could play for years without getting a goal.

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Well we need to adopt the system we do in order to suit the players we have...well actually to build a team around the player we had who left us three years ago and scored at Selhurst Park. We might as well have bought him because we seem to be holding a permanent candle to the diminutive little fuck. Wenger didnt want to re sign him because he hasn't actually fully come to terms with the fact that he's left, you can hear him calling out to him in the corridors of the Emirates at times.

I used to get angry, upset and surprised by that kind of performance, but it happens so often that I'm going numb to it. I'm not letting Wenger ruin my day. Fuck it, I'm shutting myself off from football until Wednesday. :coffee:

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Originally Posted by Darknight02

Does anyone on here believe we will ever challenge for the title with Wenger in charge of this team?

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There are some.. shocking, I know!

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

There are some.. shocking, I know!

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Yay straw man arguments!!!

And the greatest manager in the world ever has lost his fifth match in seven games

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

And the greatest manager in the world ever has lost his fifth match in seven games

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Chelsea lost?

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Chelsea lost?

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Hmmm don't know how to respond to that, but by all means if you pine for Mr Mourinho to be our manager that's your affair, personally I think some things have too high a price.

Never said he needs to be our manager. You just mentioned the best manager in the world.

I'd prefer almost any manager over who we have tbh.

Stank to high heaven of everything I now despise about football and Arsenal.

Waste of money. Waste of time. Waste of talent.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

wow. Only 2 wins? Didn't realise it was that bad.

Could have been worse. We could have lost to Hull at home. But it's still not good enough.

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I know I just said this on the match day thread but it probably needs to be worse.

I don't want it that way. But I don't want it this way either. In any event it is getting worse and we are soon to hand Man United the big confidence boost they need to kick on.

Just back. The reading out of team and subs :ilt:, who is that Semi guy :unsure: ?Bright 15 minutes, score fall asleep. Hull put on reserve keeper before half time. Start second half get out passed by Hull, Gibbs standing off, BFG asleep/ expecting Shaznay to come off his line and contest it....almost 45 minutes after reserve keeper comes on we test him with a shot on target. Injury time we think oh guess we should perhaps you now attack the fucking goal.

Alexis carrying the team, if I was him I'd hand in a transfer request and get the fuck out of the crap he has landed in.

Ref, just wow, no authority on the game, kept stopping for all the fake injuries and allowing Hul to waste as much time as they liked with impunity-he can fuck off.

It's first time mate and I seriously discussed jacking in our season tickets, 3% more? I'm tempted to write and ask for a refund based on players turning up for max 20 mins a match, and ask for a they bother-to-play I'll bother-to-pay contract.

Eta Hector was alright for debut, I was more worried about BFG erratic behaviour tbh.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Never said he needs to be our manager. You just mentioned the best manager in the world.

I'd prefer almost any manager over who we have tbh.

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That's why it's a good thing you have completely no say in the matter

Mourinho isn't the best manager in the world in any event, you could probably put any half decent manager in at Stamford Bridge currently and they'd be doing exactly the same job.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Mourinho isn't the best manager in the world in any event, you could probably put any half decent manager in at Stamford Bridge currently and they'd be doing exactly the same job.

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Too bad they can't stick Wenger there.

Post match comments:

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Originally Posted by The Specialist in fuck ups

on the match…
It was a disappointing afternoon because we got a point but we had 80 per cent possession. It is a very disappointing result. We were unlucky with the referee on the first goal but on the second goal we can only blame ourselves. We came out of the dressing room with a lack of focus and gave them the lead straight away. It was difficult. I cannot fault the effort or the heart that we had in the game. The defensive concentration was missing on the second goal and when you make it difficult at that level you cannot give the goals away like that.

on whether they did enough to win…
I think so.

on the dominant opening 20-minute spell…
If you watch the game again you will be surprised that we played better than the result indicates. Even in the last five minutes we had three clear-cut chances on goal. It’s difficult when we play against teams who are physically stronger and organised. It was 10 against 10 in one half and that’s always difficult. This was the kind of game where we couldn’t afford to concede another goal when we came out at 1-1. We know that - we have enough experience to know that and we cannot give a goal away like we did. They had two shots on goal in the whole game. At Chelsea we had three shots on goal in the whole game. We conceded two goals. It’s difficult to score three goals against any team in the world.

on whether another experienced defender would have made a difference…
Look at the two goals and tell me after.

on Jack Wilshere…
He’s well.

on whether he can play on Wednesday…
If he’s selected, yes.

on whether his team knows how he feels…
I think the performance was quite good but we put ourselves in trouble because we gave two goals away. We put our heart and effort in until the last second and I cannot fault the effort, the spirit and the work rate of the team. I’m quite respectful for that.

on what the result is down to…
The first goal is for the referee. The second one is for us and I said that.

on being 11 points behind Chelsea…
Of course [it’s a concern]. I cannot say it’s not a concern, it’s a big concern because the other teams have won their games and we haven’t. I cannot say it’s not a big concern.

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It’s difficult when we play against teams who are physically stronger and organised.

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Organised?!?!?!

Hull are fucking cheats.

Perry stick a fork in this guy please :pray:

Eta WUMger not this mysterious stranger above.

It's fairly clear Wenger no longer has a grasp on what made him so successful and what it takes to be an effective team in this league. The signing of Alexis has proven beyond all doubt star players will not fix anything, that guy is a fucking worldie but as a team we're actually somehow worse than last year despite his impressive contributions. We have a good squad with some potentially explosive players, but none of that will come to fruition without a manager who has a clear and effective plan and the nous to actually implement it and work to the strengths of what he's got.

Wenger has had years to get it right, years. More than most top managers are afforded but we're no better now than we were when the first doubts about him arose. Yes he steadied the ship when the waters were choppy after the Emirates move, and for that he deserves credit, but It's obvious we won't finish higher than 4th again and there's every chance we may miss out altogether given United are back in the mix.

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Too bad they can't stick Wenger there.

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The Arsenal Board would never let him go, he's worth his weight in gold to them because he will get the minimum required with the minimum expenditure allowing them the club to make obscene revenues which will be a veritable cash cow for the two main investors if they ever wanted to sell up. Second because of his almost senile bumbling in terms of match preparations and tactics he's a wonderful scapegoat for the clubs real problems.

Worth every penny of his salary.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You have to wonder what Wenger sees in these performances week after week to make him stick with his game plan. In his own way he's become as big an enemy of football as Maureen, sucking the joy out of every aspect of the game and replacing it with mind numbing tedium. You could put Ronaldo and Messi in that system and they'd fare no better. It's only when the individual brilliance of a player escapes the suffocation of Wenger that we ever look like scoring. Otherwise we could play for years without getting a goal.

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I tend to agree with that.

Or could it be that there is no system at all and the problem is most of these players can't perform with individual brilliance because they are shit?

The thing that sums it up is that he rushed ramsey back and threw him in today because we needed him. The transfer window closed 2 fucking weeks ago and we're rushing ramsey back, which will only result in him getting injured AGAIN. Going round in fucking circles.

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Originally Posted by Darknight02

Does anyone on here believe we will ever challenge for the title with Wenger in charge of this team?

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Well, no. But I don't think anyone could have predicted we'd be quite this shit this season


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