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I..yeah I dunno.
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I..yeah I dunno.
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In France, they've guillotined people for less than this. #WengerOut
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Arsenal. :lol:
My reaction is...oh.
Surely the worst game to reshuffle the defence. Not that it would have made any difference given the team's inability to execute basic footballing fundamentals. Gifting them three goals was a bit too much in the end. Hopefully, we keep it to two or under in the next game.
Also, well done to Anthony Taylor for another masterclass in how to get everything wrong as a referee. He's spectacular.
As many great men have said: "You don't know what you're doing." And Wenger certainly doesn't. Unless he's aiming to have us play clusterfuck football. It's an unholy mess in every way.
But do not forget as well we won the second half 2-0 and of course you know it was all Bellerin's fault again.
We've had too many results this year where late goals have papered over the obvious cracks. The disappointment was to get 2 goals back, 4 or 5 nil would have been more appropriate & needed to start those in power to realise we need immediate change.
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wenger should have started with the second half team . Bellerin starting at Stoke ? Why didn't he start flamini as a RB ? Didi we need a defensive midfielder against Stoke ? Ramsey , Cazorla and Chamberlain were not enough for him to start as midfielders ? Why did he not start with Podolski or Campbell at the LW ? Why did he not start with both Wellbeck and Giroud to add a bit of punch to counter the physical side of Stoke ?
My team would have been :
Martinez
Flamini Chambers Metersacker Gibbs
Chamberlain Ramsey Cazorla
Wellbeck Alexis
Giroud
Flamini at right back? Really away at stoke to play a player out of position who isn't even that good.
Giroud is better off the bench he has no mobility. We were lucky not to lose by more.
Wenger is really lucky though despite us being awful Liverpool spurs Everton aren't going to take 4th.
what time does the Letters v SWAYR show start?
Press conference at 7pm.
Everything we've seen today we've seen before. Wenger never learns. I remember when Stoke still had that towel wielding long throw expert in their team. Name escapes me now. Away game, first throw in, we were 1 goal down. This is now Allardyces Bolton used to boss us around when they didn't boss anyone else in the league. The man simply won't train for the opposition, won't strategize for the opposition. Unless you believe putting Bellerin in at RB at the wrong game is svelte tactics. I'm not despondent. Hopefully we stil make 4th and the berk has the good grace to leave. Every game we play now is hopefully 1 game less with Wumger in charge.
Turned it off at halftime.
It must have taken a lot of spirit, togetherness and belief to get it back to 3-2.
Good times ahead!
After the last three games, thought we had turned a corner. we have not.
pffft, dont even bother me now, and I hate that it doesnt <_<
Surely that's a good thing if your Saturday evening is still intact
The result was predictable if not the scoreline
Before the game Wenger refused to even acknowledge that this was a tricky venue for us, so there could be no surprise that we didn't change our tactics against this opposition
We know that the man can't take invitations
United were begging to be fucked over a fortnight ago but we got erectile dysfunction on the night
Stoke today are in poor form especially at home and yet we gift wrapped three goals for them so no matter how we performed in the second half the game was beyond us.
Perhaps I was premature in suggesting Giroud had done enough to start ahead of Welbeck....though I doubt the latter would have caused a different result either.
Sanchez was poor today too so we had no hope and we are pretty bad at heading a football.
Has he fucked off yet?
Well they back him when he has a plan. And keep quiet when he doesn't. Says it all really.
I wasn't expecting anything out of the game so wasn't surprised to see us lose this. I suppose the fightback if that's what you call it will justify everything in Wenger's eyes, "this team has good spirit and you saw zee quality and togetherness in zee 2nd half" :rolleyes:
I just wish this season would end and he leaves, I really can't take much more of this.
Edited to add: Just reading through the post match comments, Wenger mentions Welbeck had a little groin problem hence why he didn't start. Obviously Koscielny is still crocked as he was on the bench, Gibbs and Monreal are always crocked, we have the usual long term absentees. This season seems worse than previous seasons, we just seem to cripple our players, do other clubs have as many injuries as we do? Also...how comes someone like Ozil was never injured for Real yet he comes here and is like a cripple.
Just got back from the game. Disgusting, pathetic, spineless.
Just watched that, Ty is someone you just want to hit. Claude kind of loses the moral high ground by shouting and swearing at him, but its so true he refuses to even contemplate criticising the manager. He's frustrating because actually the fans need a unified voice and that is that the Managers time has come.
To the people who still support Wenger, what are you getting back in return for your support? Do you still think this man can deliver like he did in the past?
The annoying thing is that I don't want to have personal animus to Wenger, I want him to be remembered as the guy who won us three league titles who changed our club unrecognisably for the better, not some Gallic water treading old fart who has alienated the club fan base
So er what imaginative stuff did WUMger say about that then?
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Yep both funny and depressing in equal measures but most of all embarrassing
I think a lot of us are potential Claudes, we try and train ourselves not to care or raise our eyebrows and be dismissive because its so predictable. But I can feel my blood boiling as well, I thought we'd lose today but thinking its going to happen and then having your thoughts confirmed doesn't make you any more sanguine.
I'm sure people like Ty don't mean to be annoying, on one hand he's entitled to his point of view even though its moronic but people like that can rile you. It really isn't helpful to be positive...you are just going to piss people off.
If Bellerins cross was better, Giroud would have scored and it would have been a different game
First off If my mother had been a goat, I'd be a goat and would probably have become a curry...totally different outcome
Second off, would it really have made much difference I still think we'd have contrived to find a way to lose this game?
Claude, Ty and Bully - three utter arseholes tbf.
As for the game - I didn't see it. My reaction to the score is - Wenger out. He picked the wrong team again, and he didn't prepare for the opponent. I didn't see it but I assume this is the case because it's Wenger's MO. Wenger doesn't know what momentum is. He doesn't value it. When I saw the chavs had lost it was bitter/sweet. Sweet (as fuck) because the chavs lost. Bitter because as soon as that happened I knew there was no way in hell we'd seize the opportunity to close the gap. Whenever we have a chance to take a step forward Wenger intervenes to drive us back. We should have had a gameplan to defeat the trolls today. I didn't see it but I didn't have to to know we played the same old shit as always, oblivious to the opponent. We need a proper manager now.
Didnt see it, think I was taking a shit. The shit was most likely more enjoyable.
I saw Claude at the end of the game just as I went for a gypsy's. It's mildly embarrassing how some people want to be attached to this minor celebrity. Oh, Claude, please shake my hand! You don't know my name but I certainly know yours.
He seems like a good guy and I imagine he'd be the first to spurn any unwanted attention for his comments. However, if we're looking for some sort of official spokesperson for our club, it isn't Claude. He isn't articulate enough.
As for the general feeling of fans during the game, there was booing at half-time, which I don't agree with (if the opposition fans are going to boo your team for 90 mins, how does it help for you to do the same?) There was also, surprisingly, very little disdain directed towards Wenger. The little pockets if fans who did start 'Wenger out' chants were met with glares or sounded out.
I think the fact the Wenger does divide the fans is the worst thing about this situation. A manager should not divide the fans, He should accept he is doing this. he has to be aware.
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Calum Chambers committed two fouls today and was shown a yellow card for both of them