So if clichy goes and arsen does not sign a Lb and opts to sign both cahill and samba would you guys feel much safer with this back line ?
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So if clichy goes and arsen does not sign a Lb and opts to sign both cahill and samba would you guys feel much safer with this back line ?
Sagna-Samba-Cahill-Verminator
It's not too bad tbh. Verm spends most of his time at left back covering Clichy's arse anyway.
i'm all over that like a topman suit
Would leave only sagna the one under 6 ft also at the back .
Samba 6 ft 4 in Cahill 6 ft 2 in verminator 6 ft sagna 5ft 9in
Plus, we'd have the fabled black/white CB partnership.
It would be perfect if Sc3znynzse3 is half black half white. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
verm wouldn't be lb as wenger likes forward running full back - he can get forward and get a shot out but he's know side defender
NO. If the Defence isn't coached properly then it's not going to improve that much regardless of the personnel. I don't think signing both of those guys and pairing them together would make our defence any stronger than if we had either of them alongside Verms.Quote:
Originally Posted by WilshereourGHEL
I'd be super glad to see the back of Clichy. Dont rate that prick at all. Been waiting for him to leave us.. may be this summer will be the time we see the end of his Arsenal career! :pray:
Clichy and his lapses of concentration can fuck off.
Get both Samba and Cahill in and play Vermaelen at LB which he has done countless times for Ajax.
Would rather another CB ahead of Cahill cos i dont particularly rate him that much but i guess hes better than what we have
to see it in the progrmme would inspire much more confidence than seeing Sqcallci (can't be bothered to check if I spelt this guys name right)
however I am with Selassie on the coaching thing which is why I am glad to see us doing our business at the front end of the summer rather than the usual last minute deal that we get forced into making due to being over cautious and too slow to catch a cold.......it is not only the pitch that we can make ourselves look like laughing stocks
the point about Wenger liking running full backs has validity but maybe even he is now seeing that the FB backs job is more than just running cos that is all Clichy fu#king did most of the time
Samba is a bit shit. Cahill is a bit better. Both would make decent fourth choice defenders. I'm happy to be proven wrong about them being our Herculean defensive saviours, though.
But none of that will matter if the team doesn't defend as a team.
exactly! as soon was we lose the ball we need to immediately start pressing, closng down the spaces etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
wooooo there! don't want the guys breaking a sweat now do we!
back to basics I agree......and the kind of signings that Wenger is looking at sure know how to rough things up......its what we need, no fear of a fight/some leadership
No chance we're getting in two defenders, but would be happy with Vermaelen at LB.
Yeah me too, he can galavant forward from there without leaving us horribly exposed at the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
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Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Having a bit of a shocker arent you son?
If we can't get Baines I'd be happy with Vermaelen there, if two defenders do indeed come in then we have to assume there'll be some jiggerpokery with positions as 5 CBs who only play CB is blatantly not going to happen, technically we'd have six ofc but he can't really even play CB...
Mancs had 5 CBs and still got in Jones.
Dont care how many we have. If anyone better is available, we must go in for him
I agree, we need to up the quality and if we can get in better options it doesn't matter so much, it was more of an observation on the way we tend to do things than a point for debate.
On another note, the Mancs aren't in much better shape given that 3 of those 5 are Smalling, Brown and Evans along with Rio not getting any younger, I'd be surprised if they didn't buy yet another with one of their others shipping out.
If we where going to look externally for a new LB, who would be a decent replacement?
BainesQuote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Jose Enrique
2 players with PL experience
been saying this for a season. TV5 has never really proven himself as a class cb, always thought he'd make a better LB because he likes to get forward and looks like he'd be better then clichy and gibbs will learn from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
would be so good if we got both samba and Cahill.
but can see Cahill staying up north if city bid for him.
Oh the irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Kind of relieved we're getting rid of Clichy...hes a real liability. That said we need to replace him with a good enough LB. Gibbs isn't ready.
Gibbs is utter shit tbh. He might be good one day but even as a backup LB he is simply woeful right now. Would rather use Traore for now and I know he's not any good either.
Clichy out, Baines in would be fantastic though. :)
Nah, he'll want to join his mate Wishere so they can ghel it up together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Thread should really be called 'If clichy goes'
You got my hopes up for a second there
2 seasons ago he was one of the best in the word in his position imo. Really sad to see him get worse
Roma offering 8mill allegedly
Hold on so Roma, an Italian club, want Clichy??? Go for him guys. Nice to see an Italian club buy a defender who hasn't got a scooby how to defend...:)
Been saying for a while now, can't defend for toffee....and that's when he's actually not injured which isn't very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Verminator
I honestly think I could beat Samba in a foot race and I get tired standing up. I just cant see that lumbering oaf being good enough, Cahill at least can trap a ball with out punting it away. What about the Jerome Boatang chap at city? we wanted him before city did, he can play at left back (where he plays for the goose steppers) He's talked about leaving to get more games and accepted he would have to take a paycut to leave.
That's going a bit far.Quote:
Gibbs is utter shit tbh.
It's probably been said already but Gibbs is not a LB, he was a box to box CMF who could also play left wing in the reserves. Wenger thought he was too lightweight in the middle, plus we don't really play with traditional wingers so he's placed him at left back hoping to do an Ashley Cole. Cole actually learned how to defend well despite also starting off as an offensive player, but I'm not sure Gibbs can do the same. Maybe with more experience like Cole aquired, we'll see.
Worryingly he's become quite a sicknote already. Let's hope its growing pains and he grows out of it like Walcott seems to have done.
Boateng wants out of citeh because he doesnt want to play at LB, I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maorigooner
Samba and Cahill would both be fine tbh.
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Originally Posted by Maorigooner
I ws thinking the same thing about Boatang but imagine that he would prefer to go back to Germany and a 'paycut' from Citeh wages would probably still price us out of the running!!!Quote:
accepted he would have to take a paycut to leave
However he would be worth keeping in mind and I believe that we would interest him because of the way we play however the signs are that Wenger is going for the direct route type well at least the kind of player that knows when that style is appropriate ie not try and play it out of defence from the goal line. Samba will benefit from playing along side a player like Verms. Hopefully it won't be 90 minutes of defending like he is expected to do at Blackburn so there will be time for him to grow. I do remember making some great saves, at times consecutive tackles and remember thinking that if some of ours had half the fight he showed then we wouldnt get in some of the messes we do........
I know that Samba is not a Franz Beckenbauer but he would bring a lot of wht is missing in our defence/team as a whole and that is heart and fight.......although it doesnt outweigh technical ability especially when we play the way we do, we can also never underestimate the value of it
I say get Samba and Cahill......money well spent
I know that Samba is not a Franz Beckenbauer but he would bring a lot of wht is missing in our defence/team as a whole and that is heart and fight.......although it doesnt outweigh technical ability especially when we play the way we do, we can also never underestimate the value of it
neither did adams
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Originally Posted by WilshereourGHEL
you mean neither was Adams......right!?Quote:
I know that Samba is not a Franz Beckenbauer
yes
good
then we can see why both of us think that Samba signing is not such a bad thing
Idd i can :)