In the words of Stevie G, "we go again":
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...-Reus-standoff
Reus available for £20m due to a clause apparently. Wenger wants him. Apparently.
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In the words of Stevie G, "we go again":
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...-Reus-standoff
Reus available for £20m due to a clause apparently. Wenger wants him. Apparently.
Yes please, I want him too. In the nicest possible way. Let Arteta go
Isn't he an attacking midfielder? If anything he should be Rosicky's replacement if Tommy leaves, but he's not going anywhere yet so I don't think we need another AM.
A top class DM and that should be the final piece to the puzzle.
He finally sorted the attack 2.5 years after RVP left.
Finally sorted the defence with the signing of Paulista.
Next up DM.
Once that's done, theoretically, we should be ready for a title charge... :ilt:
We must not let this one fucking slip!Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
But do we need Reus? Not really.
You can picture Wenger going through a sticker album and picking out all the attacking midfielders, got, got, got, got, got, need, almost got.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Ehhh? Completely different positions. Reus is a wide forward/AM ...... see Sanchez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
All the sources seem to indicate that Reus is pretty much a shoe in for Real Madrid this summer once his (at this point well known) 20 million pounds release clause kicks in and apparently he wants to go. Can't blame him either given how shit Dortmund are right now. Apparently Chelsea inquired this window but were pretty much told that his heart was set on Real which is why they ended up going for Cuadrado instead.
At any rate, the last thing we need is Reus right now. With Sanchez, Theo, Ox, Welbeck and <Insert numerous AM's that can play there>, we really don't need him unless someone was going to leave. Not that Madrid really need him either with Ronaldo and Bale there but I suppose they need to keep up their "one mega superstar every summer" policy.
We mos def don't need him but I wouldn't say no to a player of his quality and at that price. Common sense should tell you a young German player would think twice about moving there if he wants to play. Isco is even beginning to turn it on over there too....
I'm not sure who's place at Real he's going to take. Of course he could still easily end up going.
Sanchez, Reus, Ozil......is into dream team territory though.....
Can't help but feel that unless we become as good a collective sum of our parts as Bayern are, that a world class CF is still missing from this team. There's a slight question mark over the goalkeepers and we should be pursuing a DM.
--------- Giroud------
Reus ---- Ozil ---- Sanchez
:faint:
That would be bloody ridiculous.
Reus would be lovely but I doubt it'll happen and even if it did, we ought to bolster other areas of the squad before we beef the attack up even more.
Arteta is and always was an AM. The fact that Wumger felt the need to shoehorn him into a position he is obviously not suited for should not change the historical facts from his time at Rangers and before Arteta was an AM.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
If we are collecting them like stamps, then lets get us a Penny Black instead of a Zimbabwe Mugabe special edition.
As for Real, why go there? Asides from earning 200kpw.
My opinion is that Reus is too good to pass up on and if he did want to come here then we should be all over it. He's world class, and to be brutally honest I would sacrifice one of Theo or Ox If that what it takes to get Reus here.
Can you imagine Reus and Sanchez on both flanks, oh my....
Seriously thought, WTF is happening to Dortmund? rock bottom with virtually the same squad (bar the polish fella). They are in real danger of going down too.
Reus is just top class, so elegant and efficient. Id definitely have him over any of our attacking players (bar Alexis, Santi and Ox). We could do a deal with Bayern, give them Ozil and ask them not to snif around for Reus.
According to some Spanish paper, Sanchez is considering leaving after being snubbed twice for the player of the month awards.
:rolleyes:
Reus would be a great addition, but up front is the one place where numbers is not an issue.
That would obviously change if we have a major shake-up and getting rid of Players who obviously have no future with us.
Players I can see potentially going are:
Podolski (Talented, but far to lazy for Arsenal's playstyle)
Miyaichi (Failed to deliver on potential)
Jenkinson (Can't see him getting in now with Debuchy and Bellerin, and I doubt he'd be happy with 3rd choice)
Campbell (I think the new deal was just to ensure we get a good fee for him)
Diaby (Tragic, but we need to let go at some point)
Sanogo (He's on/off form reminds me of Moneybayor... Once burnt twice shy and all that)
*Wilshere (Was touted as our "Gerrard", but his position is flooded with players of same or better quality... His off pitch smoking isn't doing him any favors)
Arteta (Given his age, can he keep up with the energy and tempo that we have been playing to as of late... I doubt it)
Flamini (I remember seeing something suggesting that he wants to end his career in France, so may aswell cash in whilst we can get something)
* Rosicky (He's a eager beaver, so I can see him wanting out to play more given how little time he has left in the top flight)
* Cazorla (Perhaps the money grabbers upstairs will want to cash in given his amazing form this season)
I put an * by Wilshere, Cazorla and Rosicky as I don't wan't them to leave!
Obviously, nobody should be leaving unless we find suitable (or better) replacements.
Miyaichi :haha:
Sanogo should leave, even if all our other strikers leave. Or die.
Miyaichi is worse than Letters' wardrobe.
We have barely seen anything of him (Miyachi) to say that.. Letters on the other hand :lol:
Dortmund and Klopp are a disgrace. They're going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
How's that in any way relevant though? He may have been an AM when he first arrived but everyone on here knows that he's been playing as a DM for us and that's the role he takes up in the squad. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
I agree he's not suited for the role which is why we need to focus on bringing in a world class player in that position this summer (Schniderlin, Bender etc) instead of wasting resources and time going for a player who:
A) We don't need
B) Has so many suitors that he's unlikely choose us even if we were interested
And for the same reason why most players who haven't already been there, dream of Real Madrid: the glamour and reputation of the club. It's the biggest club in the world with superstars in nearly every position.
Wouldn't shock me if they got rid of Bale this summer to make room for him either as the latter has been getting a few jeers from the fickle Madrid crowd .... Real are well known for their superstar merry-go-round.
Personally think if he had any sense he'd go to to Bayern as with Robben aging and Ribery losing it, he's guaranteed a starting berth but I'd hate to see yet another Dortmund player being taken by Bayern.
Combination of reasons by the looks of it:Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
- Losing their best player ever summer and replacing them with inferior players eventually becomes noticeable. For example, Immobile is no where close to Lewondonski
- Klopp running their current team into the ground, resulting in numerous injuries and general fatigue. Dortmund's style of play is very aggressive and physically intensive and that eventually takes it's toll on players. People moan about Wenger doing a similar thing at times (see Ramsey last year) but Klopp's a hundred times worse at it.
- Teams finally figuring out Klopp's tactics and adjusting accordingly
- Confidence. We can speak from experience about this, but it becomes a cycle of negativity and bad results lead to further bad results as the team has zero confidence and end up making stupid mistakes as a result.
- Their defence has gone to complete shit this season. People wank the fuck out of Hummels but he's been absolutely garbage this season. I actually do hope United are silly enough to splurge £40 of so million on him or whatever they're speculating on Redcafe as I think he's very overrated.
Think Raphael Honegistein wrote a really good piece about Dortmund's demise recently.
I still don't think they'll go down though. It's very tight there and a couple of back to back wins will be enough to lift them out and they have enough quality to be able to do that.
Mind you, they'll be rich for picking if they do go down though. Wouldn't mind a bit of Ginter or Sven Bender myself. :cloud9:
As Arsenal fans we have a tendency to suddenly think we're too good for anything but the very best (Messi) as soon as we a get a quality player through the door (Sanchez). Imagine not seriously considering Reus for 20 million if he was actually available for that!?Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
As a business acquisition alone it would almost be insane not to take it up.
Consider his wage demands too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Raphael H is one of my favourite football reporters........ and it was he who said that all this abject football they've been playing has come in spite of having the best squad of players Dortmund have ever had. In view of that, I don't think losing a few of their best players even in successive seasons should be an excuse. Klopp has to take a lot of stick.
I'd be interested in knowing a few of the CB's you think are fundamentally better than Hummels outside of these shores......and why? Emirates gooner.
Even with that in mind. A player of his quality could easily double/triple in value if he does as well as his talent suggests he can here. In fact 20 million is already way under priced for him. He's at Dortmund not Chelsea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Gotze was famously on about 13k a week at Dortmund (which was a big reason for our interest in such a prestigious talent to begin with) not an age before he skipped on out of there to join Pep Guardiola and the anti tika takkers brigade.
It's not that I think Hummels is a bad defender Blink, it's just I think he's become horribly overrated though that's partly due to a dearth of top CB's around. I mean, right after the World Cup and prior to Dortmund's slump you would have looked at a minimum of 35 million to even get Dortmund to the table for him which is ridiculous money. Whilst not as slow (and subsequently ridiculed) for it as Mertesacker is, he's not exactly fast either and you generally have to play him alongside a quicker CB (e.g. Boateng in the national team). He makes the odd clanger and like I alluded to in my first post, he's been the captain of the Dortmund team that are rock bottom of the table this season; he needs to take responsibility for that as that's partly due to his own poor performances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
Whilst probably a tad foolish in hindsight you do have to remember that there was a reason why Bayern decided to let Hummels go at the time in favour of Badstuber who they considered the better prospect. May be Arsenal bias, but for me Kos is a better defender than him and in fact one of the best around in the world; wouldn't trade him in for anyone.
And I completely agree with regards to RH's assessment of Klopp. He needs to take a massive share of the blame of the current predicament. You can understand them having one season not challenging and being around 5/6th or even mid table ....... but rock bottom? No way? It's not like they haven't spent money either; they've got the second highest net spent in the Bundesliga as well alongside Wolfsburg for the last couple of years I believe, though perhaps that figure should be a bit lower as they didn't get as much for their superstars as they should have (Lewandoski left on a free & Gotze had a release clause).
Still, there's no way players of the quality of Reus, Hummels, Sahin, Mkitryahan, Gundogen, Pizaweck etc etc should be anywhere near a relegation battle and the fact that they are is a damning indictment against Klopp. One of the consequences of Dortmund's slump is that it's going to make many clubs look twice at Klopp when they need a new manager ......... you would have thought he'd be a shoe in for a club like ours once Wenger leaves but probably not anymore.
It's not been as bad as the lesson I learnt after "Martinez" but seeing Klopp's current plight does give me a lot more appreciation for Wenger and his longevity and keeping us there or there abouts despite similar challenges (losing their best players etc etc). It's not as easy as people make out.
What's all this shite I'm seeing about Sanchez being unhappy cos the fans have voted santi player of the month the last 2 times.
Goal.com and their usual click bait antics apparently.
Cunts like Durham and the pond life at goal.com are writing shit about him because he's in the spotlight and they see an angle to grab a better spot on the backsteet corner near the docks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edinburgh Gooner
Perhaps there's something in the possibility his ratings have been boosted by the dearth of top quality CB's in world football, but I suppose that would apply to anyone else too wouldn't it? Many have suggested it has with Thiago Silva and I have some sympathy for that view.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
I think for the most unbiased view you'd have to ask neutrals and I doubt how many neutrals would claim Koscielny as the best in the world. ...in spite of how much we appreciate him. He has a clanger in him too.
Bayern let Hummel's go so long ago I'd forgotten it happened and I've never quite got the suggestion that he is anything like slow....but that's just my personal view. I am happy with our CB options though....finally and am actually looking forward to seeing Paulista play. I'm even enjoying Monreal!
Shopping List!
1, World class Goalkeeper if Ospina turns out to be dodgy. If not, a decent proven reserve Keeper like Cech.
2, Central defender to allow Merts to go. Need one with experience in view of the others.
3, A quality left back to allow Monreal to go.
4, Cover at right back incase Debouch turns out to be the new Diaby.
5, World class Defensive midfielder
6, World class CF - proven finisher to allow Giroud to go.
Not one a year Wenger - we need the lot.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31367988
Reus signs a new contract at Dortmund. Well there goes his famous 20 million pound release clause.
Probably just to ensure Dortmund get a decent price for him this summer but that ends whatever little speculation there was linking him to us.
I'd be surprised if there isn't a get out clause in the event of relegation.
Chelsea wouldn't sell us a cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
Paulista will either take Per's place or not.
Monreal has had a decent season at left back and I think Bellerin, Chmbers and jenkinson is enough right back cover already.
5 and 6 I agree with though I don't think we need to chase Giroud out the club.
:blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
You sound like a lady.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
You've just come up with the ideal solution to our Wenger problem - put my wife in charge for a year. We'll buy every fucker, even if we don't need them & can't afford them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
According to a well sourced radio station in spaine, Cazorla has agreed personal terms to join Atletico Madrid.
Now i know this sounds like BS since he is playing the best footy of his career and looks like he is enjoying his footy, not to mention the fact that he recently signed a new contract but to me it looks wenger loves Ozil and wants to make him his number 10 long term, ozil is about 6 years younger and santi is over 30 and might want to end his career back home.
Cazorla is linked with Atletico every week.
He's their Kalou. Or M'Vila. Or Trabelsi. Or Marica.
Balague has said Atletico's interest is genuine and they have made contact.
I guess with him having a year left it's going to be the big summer talking point on if he goes or not.
They can take Wilshere and 5 million OR Wilshere, Sczesny and 10 million.
But keep your hands off Cathorla!!! :angry: