I think I've just gone beyond disliking Wenger
Our players are operating without a manager, sad state of affairs this. All credit to the players for still being in touching distance of 4th spot, all on their own.
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I think I've just gone beyond disliking Wenger
Our players are operating without a manager, sad state of affairs this. All credit to the players for still being in touching distance of 4th spot, all on their own.
Only gripe I have is why Ramsey started and why he wasn't hauled off as soon as possible
Thought we were 2nd best today, we made them look a lot better than they are. We were really poor, i don't think anyone really played well for us, maybe Monreal, the rest were absolute garbage.
scoring first saved our blushes otherwise I think it could've been 5-0.
Didn't watch it so can't comment.
Fuck off BT Sport 12:45 games. :sick:
Ospina - 9 - MOTM
Everyone else - 1
Wenger - after building up momentum, after creating confidence and belief, decides to fall asleep. Where's his passion? Not out of his seat once to urge his players on.
Interesting the Man City game, he said he listened to his players. Today perhaps demonstrated, he's clueless to change things.
One game this season I care about!
Worst thing tho - Owen and BT prats are so happy, Harry Kane appears World Class.
was such a non performance today, really odd all over the pitch.
why didnt we play the way we have recently? we gave them the intiative and sat back.
missed the spark and pace of ox and alexis, ozil outwide was again a flop.
I don't understand the stupidity of sitting back when you're 0-1 up. We had openings, we had chances after Ozil's goal. From about the half-hour point, it was all them. A fact Wenger chose to blindly ignore at half-time.
I was willing a bit of luck to come our way. A last minute equalizer. Just to shut them up. They've done it to us so often, it would have been nice to do it to them.
Alas, it would not have been deserved. We've made that sh!thead Kane look world class and, to worsen matters, we've invited the question of who's better: Kane or Sanchez
Like i`ve said before. All our victories even in the past came in spite of Wenger. He is good at assembling quality players, but absolutely useless at guiding them.
1 less day till he leaves.
Where is Letters to convince me that things are going to be okay, that were simply stagnating not regressing.
A season without a win over Spurs is just sick.
We just can't hack the early KOs and for that we have to blame the manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Their late goal at our place :sick: :ilt:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I've come to the conclusion I've been way too critical of the players. No one is managing them and helping them out when they need it the most. We could have played shit and still won this game, if only the manager was awake at any point during that game and bothered to rectify our problems.
Really can't see it any other way tbh.
Alexis should've been risked today no doubt about it.
Our Manager couldn't be bothered to turn up, so you can't blame the, players. At one nil down I said it was one of the Spuds easiest games of the season, and so it was.
Fuck.
We didn't turn up, we lost. Been there, done that.
Wenger also changed Cazorla's role. Sat there like a lemon while Bellerin got ripped apart, watch Ramsey trudge through mud giving the ball away, watched Giroud hopelessly isolated, watched Ozil yawning his way through a morning stroll, watched the middle being overloaded and being second best every time...
What did he do? He waited for the computer to tell him it was time for a sub. And even then, he takes off Cazorla and Welbeck. Ramsey and Ozil left on. If the guy has a plan then he;s the only one on earth who can see it. For everyone else, they see the exact opposite.
We will never compete again until the manager understands that football is a game of the moment, not some algorithm designed to average out to a 4th place finish.
sp*rs didn't even see the goal as a set back they knew they would score and we let them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
it looked like wenger had the chelsea result on the back of his mind and showed spuds too much respect but sitting back.
We had the players and firepower to hurt them but we chose to be negative and fucked it up in the end.
BT congratulating Kane on winning the first ever quadruple.
i agree on the subs. Welbeck was dangerous and worked ard, and santi is santi he will always create something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
ramsey and owil were shite.
I don't think that at all, I just think it was sluggishness on our part that meant we weren't closing them down and harrying them. We gave them all the time in the world on the ballQuote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by adzzzbatch
Their team knew it.
Their Manager (they have one) knew it.
Their fans knew it.
And worst of all, we knew it.
Not sure, I don't think the tactics were wrong. It was a mixture of Ramsey being Ramsey (shit), Ozil just not giving a fuck when he has to roll his sleeves up and play out of positionQuote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
One man seemingly didn't though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
I'm not even angry any more, just bored of it. The result was a given as soon as wenger was allowed control of the team sheet. Even at 1-1 he didn't respond and bring Theo and Tomas on.
No. Sorry mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
You are crediting Wenger with giving it thought.
He didn't.
He never does.
I'd say the tactics on the right were at least a bit fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Never does.Quote:
Originally Posted by adzzzbatch
Ozil being brougt straight back seems to have stolen santi's limelight. These two cannot work togerther in the same midfield, and right now Ozil has to be dropped.
Is it a coincidence that his performance drops the minute Ozil starts alongside him?
Scholes spouting now. Can he work Wilshere into his criticism I wonder?
These last few months, Ramsey has been as useful as Ebola.
What a shite player (at the moment)
I think he set us up to soak up pressure and counter to be fair but there's only so much soaking up you can do when you continually give the ball away.
The City result was as much about Cazorla giving us purpose in midfield and giving us outlets which we just didnt have today, today was a carbon copy of the game last season the difference is they had someone with the quality to finish their chances.
Very true sp*rs had nothing to be worried about that's why they were the ones that played with purpose because they saw we offered no threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Bad day all round. Bad selection, bad performances, bad decisions, bad reactions.
Not that Ozil was the worst performer today, but if we were going for a containing and breaking approach then surely Rosicky and Walcott were better options. But now that WUMger's favourites are back the team will suffer. Cazorla saved his worst performance for three months for today and Ramsey was almost as bad. Only Coquelin of the front six played well and he was let down by the carelessness and idiocy of all those around him. No change to the plan or personnel either as the game got out of our control, so the only hope was for some individual brilliance. But considering we hardly got the ball or gave it away at every opportunity, there was little chance of that happening.
None of his decisions were directly costly for us, but Atkinson was just shocking. Every first foul by an Arsenal player was a booking while Spurs were getting away with hundreds of fouls, dives and pulls in the box. Not to mention giving them goal kicks for corners.
We could have overcome Atkinson and Spurs though, if he'd picked a more suitable team for the situation and had a better than 23% passing accuracy.
With Ozil, Welbeck and Wilshere soon back, players like Oxlade, Cazorla and Walcott and probably even Coquelin will have to face up to being dropped for playing well and making us a more effective outfit. Chambers back to RB permanently too probably.
Momentum well and truly destroyed again. Maximum points and a healthy goal difference should be the minimum from the upcoming run of fixtures now.
Aye though I'm more referring to the general game plan, were he fit the best option on the right would have been to play Debuchy with Bellerin in front of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Fuck me, bt sport making it sound like Spurs have won the champions league. Bit patronising to be honest.
agree with every word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
i too thought the ref was shocking. just seems to favour them on all those 50 50s and punished us at every opportunity.
Wenger reckons we put so much effort in. Didn't spot it myself, but good to know.
He knows best :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn