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I honestly believe that anyone who still wants Wenger as manager at this point wants to purposely see Arsenal fail.
I wonder where Pep will play Ozil next season. Gotze's still there and Muller and Costa have the flanks.
Which one was the pub team in thread title?
You know, it may not have been a good idea failing in signing an outfield player.
Perhaps consistency means consistently shit?
I think it's too early to judge this.
This is very depressing. It's like 1999 all over again.
Hapless.
Remember the days when we used to complain about getting knocked out in the quarter finals by the first good team we played against?
Ah the good old days. We didn't realise what a genius Wenger used to be.
what a shaggy dog story
There were no players better than Arteta, Flamini, Campbell, Giroud. Simply not possible to improve on them.
On the plus side, Chelsea are just as shit.
At least we won't have to suffer the indignity of gagging over a Utd treble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernesto
I quite enjoyed the lunacy, so it's hard to be annoyed.
The team was all over the place, with Ozil and Oxlade particularly drunk on the night, but when your keeper throws the ball into his own net, there's no hope.
Koscielny out for the season too.
Cazorla, Bellerin and Gabriel to faint with a liitle ankle in the first five minutes on Sunday.
Just when you think this team can let you down again, they do.
Looking at the team, we have good players, as good as most top teams in PL and CL barring a few. It must be the manager not lining them up right, or instilling some passion.
Just really fed up of supporting this team now. No joy from it, I literally never know what team will tip up for a game!
We really have been pretty awful this season. Tonight was like a panto and further reinforces not only the limitations of this team but also of Wenger. Wenger is absolutely finished at the top level, he's a relic. The mistakes he is making are there for all to see and he has absolutely nothing or no one to hide behind. This is his mess and I don't think he can get us out of it.
Great album tbf and not at all depressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernesto
The bright side of not spending....money in the pot for the next manager....that's if those cowards decide to sack him. Probably not. How will Stan pick up his annual £3m a consultancy fee?
But money isn't the issue here. This is tactical. He benches our only signing, a world class keeper in a must win game just to appease some peasant midget keeper that fucks up on the night!
Our record signing is having a mare and creating zilch for us but instead of hauling him or Cazorla off, he takes off Coquelin so he can throw on another attacker. Ramsey had an impact. More than what Ozil and Cazorla but it unbalanced us and that's how we conceded that third killer goal.
It was a poor day at the office for midfield and defence. Very poor.
I didn't enjoy that. Came close to breaking my lap top when that third goal went in. Usually chuckle away at such games but this one really pissed me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Shocking defeat. It's going to take a miracle to get out of this group now, this is a massive embarrassment.
It's about time the manger is called out for his record in this competition. People are always quick to point out how consistent we are in qualifying for it but our actual performance in it always seems to be secondary. I'm sorry to say but Wenger is pound for pound a terrible manager at least as far as the Champions League is concerned. No one else has had 18 consecutive years to learn and improve, yet somehow we're as far away as we've ever been from being competitive.
Honestly, I would rather have a crack at the Europa League. We might not even get that at this rate though.
Unbelievable.
How many subs have you made in your career? 10,000? 1,000? 10?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
1?
Thought so. You should get behind the team.
Myopic Dunderheads who still think Wenger knows what he's doing.
Couldn't win this competition if you gave him a squad of the two best players from every league in European football.
A team made worse than the sum of its parts by a faulty calculator of a manager.
A shyster sponging off a football club, pretending to be looking out for its best interests.
Rassamfassam Arsene Dastardly.
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
If you were sat midway up the upper tier.
HI honestly don't think we would win the Europa, we'd somehow make a mess of that too. Let's be honest we're getting beaten by Europa league level clubs in CL on a fairly regular basis now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Do you remember when we lost the UEFA Cup final or whatever the competition was called back then to Galatasaray?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
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Originally Posted by Master Splinter
When has Wenger ever rested his first choice keeper in the CL? Did he wake up one morning and think of a new way to fuck over our club?
WTF is our board doing keeping this guy in charge. It's like a wife begging her husband to stay with her after he fucks her sister and her best friend. They just keep throwing more money into his bank account.
The papers report Ospina has a contractual agreement he'll play in certain games. If true, the manager should be sacked, simple as. If not true then the journos should be sacked, although they should be sacked anyway for loads of other shit. As should our manager, now I think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Shameful performance.
Wenger holding his hands up after by blaming bad luck and good Olympiakos defending.
So how will they outdo this and, more pertinently, other recent defeats to United on Sunday? Last season's dominate and shambolically concede two on the break would be the obvious answer, especially after today's treat, but they'll surely have something quite innovative in store too.
Alexis hat-trick to go 3-0 up and Ox with a quartet of own goals in the second half?
Ospina comes on and throws one in on the 98th minute for a laugh to hand us a 0-1 defeat?
Anyone had the guts to looks at the news sites yet? Will probably give that a miss until well after the Utd loss.
I noticed that tbf. Those bastards defended for the whole 90 mins and the ref did fuck all about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
The stadium plan was supposed to put us in with the European elite. The difference between us & where we should be is simply summed up tonight. When we went 1-0 down, Bayern were 3-0 up. Lewandowski would have finished the 2 early chances that Ox & Theo had and the game would have been won. They have to come out & attacking leaving the space needed to smack 5 passed them. Exactly like Bayern did.
Bayern haven't had an oligarch buy them out. They have bought quality players without spending £80 mill+ like a Barca or Madrid but are still at a level to compete. We are miles behind & we will see that in the next 2 games.
And according to Ivan we would be competing with Bayern once all the extra wonga started piling in. Yet we're further away than ever it seems. Fuck the lot of them.
Yep, there are plenty of capable and hungry teams in it that could turn us over on any given day. I'd like to see us have a crack at something new though because I've actually grown to resent this competition now.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Very happy I didn't bother with BT Sport this season so I don't need to witness this shite anymore.
I blame Letters because he's keeping Wenger in a job through determined internet pedantry and overly aggressive reasonableness.
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Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Here's to fourth place again this season and more of the same next season. Something to look forward to at least.
As a great short man who's really short would point out, we finished third last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
We ARE competing with them. Share price up, profits up, if our revenues continue to rise at present rates we'll overtake Bayern within the next few years. But still people moan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
No Arsene, the turning point was when you picked the team. Or when you didn't buy players in the summer. Or when you didn't teach them how to defend set pieces. Or when you didn't teach your team to stop making the same mistakes all of the other teams you have built in the last 10 years have made.Quote:
Wenger: "The turning point at 2-2 is we give them a goal again straight away. If it stays 2-2 for five minutes we win the game."
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"A goalkeeper can make a mistake that doesn't explain that we lose the game. It happened to Petr Cech already this season [against West Ham]."