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Yeah, well someone had to start this shit.
Let me the first to say
Enough of this crap. Wenger Out!!
WUMger - 19 years and still a million miles away. Shocking record.
The embarrassing effort this year - 100% down to him. Arrogant cock.
When we were able to put our first XI out there, we thrashed them 2-0.
We've lost four first-teamers since then, plus they had the ref playing for them, so this result is pointless as long we win on Sunday.
Bif scored the goal of the game :bow:.
Heh, less games for us, is definitely not a bad thing. All i care about is the league.
I thought we would lose but that was kind of embarrassing and could have been a lot worse. More worried about our mounting injuries and game on Sunday than CL TBH.
Not if we fall into The Europa League. That will mean more games for us, and goodbye PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobson's choice
We need to be in the Europa League.
We should know by now that concentrating on one competition doesn't benefit us. We've gone out in the first knock out stage of the CL for years now and gone onto win cups.
Cups are still are best chance of winning a trophy as one off games.
WUMger would play Santi in goal if we got to the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Agree with NQ, we go in the Europa and it's goodbye PL. We can't even field a proper team now with our injury list and it's like this every season. We don't have the squad to juggle Europa and PL, full of too many crocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
We're just not very good in Europe. Didn't need a pasting tonight to tell you that.
Still got half a chance of going through but I'm not holding my breath.
There are two more games in the Europa, one extra round. The same as an FA Cup replay or two. It's a complete fallacy to think we will concentrate on the league and manage ourselves well enough in that. We need as many options as possible given our manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
Ref was utterly incompetent (which purely coincidentally meant him giving Bayern every single decision) until 4-0. Then suddenly he could ref again. What an amazing recovery. Nothing at all suspicious about his performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Fuck it. Next game please.
I just don't like the idea of Europa in that you're delayed in the league by a day. Man City could be the pacesetters on the Saturday and we have all the pressure of catching them up on the Sunday.
We all know how Wenger copes with pressure.
So why give Wenger such a hammering :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We were away against pretty much the best team in Europe and from what you're saying the ref was giving them everything.
We shouldn't be getting hammered like that though against anyone.
However, if we do finish second in this group and get into the knockout stages, I think it will top that night in the San Siro (there, I said it)
The best bit was when Mertesacker just hauled down Robben towards the end and the ref got on with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
But when the game was on the line early on, he booked Campbell for being in the same post code as Costa.
Remember we've looked good at this stage before. Let's see where we are come March and whether we rue not having a pop at the Europa as our PL has gone down the toilet once again. This is very early days in the league, not an indicator for where we'll finish come the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernesto
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Originally Posted by Letters
Bayern can do that against anyone when on form. Not forgiving our failings today but they can make a very good team look like amateurs.
But the games are on a Thursday night in Shithole Creek, huge difference. One less day recovery than all our opponents. Game over. This squad can barely handle what we have, in fact it can't even do that. We're in a shit state and the Dropout League will be the shit icing. And anyway - aren't we supposed to be up there with the elite of European football? That fucker who gets paid £3mill for his advice better start with the suggestions because we're deep in shit now. Better get his fucking crusty old, faded chequebook out in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Because everything Wenger did from start to finish was pure shit and he served us up another embarrassing Euro night again, which he specialises in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
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Originally Posted by Kano
You're right of course but after the West Ham game and the somewhat patchy start I was saying the exact same thing and was endlessly WUMmed about it.
I personally think the league is the only competition we can manage if we are competing for it this year. I don't believe we could manage Europa on Thursday and then league games over the weekend. If everyone is fit then yes we have the squad, everyone is never fit though, it's not like these muscular injuries are one-offs, we face this problem every single season and more often than not it's the same set of players out injured throughout the season. I don't even know why Wenger is surprised, Walcott, Ramsey, Wilshere, OX, Rosicky & Arteta always miss large chunks of the season, they have done for a while now. Take them out and our squad options are decimated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Is that true - we always play Sunday if we are playing on Thu? Not so bad then. But still a giant humiliation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernesto
Another embarrassing thrashing, seems to have become a fairly reguar thing under Wenger, before he arrived we very very rarely even lost by more than three goals.
He can't hack in in Europe let's face it, decades of failing shows that, we beat them 2-0 at home but it means very little if we can't consolidate that with a good performance away.
Disappointing but no real surprise.
They can. Losing there is no disgrace but we could have done without a hammering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
It's all about the league this season, for me. What we have to do is avoid the dreaded 3rd place and Europa League.
Those obscure games happen in the group stage but the better teams in mainland Europe get through and the destinations become more normal. Thurs/Sun, Weds/Sat, what's the difference? We can kid ourselves we are up there with the elite and keep getting knocked out by the real elite every year, or go for a trophy we can win. And a trophy we'd enjoy. Beating Birmingham a few years back wouldn't exactly have been '71 all over again but enjoyable none the less for the silverware. We are absolutely kidding ourselves if we think that all our eggs in one basket will improve Wenger's management of the squad. We are built for cups not long campaigns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Just get rid of Wenger. That's the only way we'll be genuinely in for a serious trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
But where has this illusion come from? Being second in early November? We should all know how many times we've seen this. Nothing has created our downfall in the league before now. We've had no extended CL runs, always out in the next round. Just two extra games. So all we've had is the PL to concentrate on for years and where has that got us? We can't talk about cotton wool around our players to save them for some mystical glory run in the league when there is nothing to say the exact same thing won't happen again. Just go for whatever we can because otherwise we are just narrowing our own chances of success, star struck by early season form that has burnt us for years on end.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
We haven't had a thrashing for a couple of seasons :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
At least you're happy again now you've got something to whine about, it's noticeable how little you've posted here in our good run, one bad result and you can't wait to log on again.
Getting raped on live TV by a bunch of Germans out for a stroll is slightly disgraceful, maybe, perhaps. Never dignified to be left with your pants around your ankles and a bloody anus, very tricky to look professional under those circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
There's always that. New contract I read the other day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I think by winning the league people mean not being 14 points behind by Christmas. I don't think anyone seriously envisages us finishing top in May. Too many ways to fuck up and Wenger has mastered all of them. But maybe if we have absolutely zero distractions, and I think WUMger has already shown he can chuck a game when he fancies it, we may, just may have something to still be interested in during the run-in. If we have any players left. Got to keep the little blighters in cotton wool as much as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Of course but given the regularity of them thrashing teams, it was always on the cards. Even with our very best eleven out there it was less likely to happen but I think all Arsenal fans feared an absolute pasting. Which is exactly what we got. I think the fans can wash it out quickly enough because we had such low expectations. We'll soon see how the players deal with it on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Yep. The bean counters have a turn of pace when they smell fresh cash opportunities. Strike while the fans are distracted by a few wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
It was a bad one but look at their home record, they've won every game and in most of them scored 4 or 5 goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
They're quite good, we've got a bunch of injuries and from what you've said the ref was giving them everything.
The important things are we don't drop into the Europa League and this result doesn't affect our league form.
The PL is more realistic than the CL, if we keep in touch like we have so far then I'll believe we have a chance.
The result and performance shames not only the club but our country. Seemingly the only one who cares about results rather than finances is the Russian who is Persona non Gratta with the hierarchy.
But in reality, come on, we've had none in the past. Two extra CL games against opposition we know we aren't going to beat and then back to the PL again. We've had no real distractions beyond the CL group stage for some time. We've been in good positions around Xmas, Jan/Feb, Knocked out of the CL, a clear road ahead and gone to shit. I just don't see how the cotton wool theory works for us. We pick up injuries no matter what, so we may as well just say fuck it and keep our options open. We got to the CL with a reserve back four, so I can't see the Europa as beyond our squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I will be swiftly forgetting this result should we win the derby. Don't even try to fuck that one up WUMger.