Another game, another 3 massive points.
Swansea at home is generally a pub draw/loss, we tend to struggle against them and i can see us dropping points here.
Id drop Theo and Ramsay, bring in Joel and Elneny.
1-1, 1-2, or 0-0.
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Another game, another 3 massive points.
Swansea at home is generally a pub draw/loss, we tend to struggle against them and i can see us dropping points here.
Id drop Theo and Ramsay, bring in Joel and Elneny.
1-1, 1-2, or 0-0.
M E H
It's on!
The collapse that is.
3-0
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
We have to move on i guess...
meh.
Going to this. Bagged a spare seat on TX, had to get out of the house as the missus is bringing her bint mates round. Shame it's non-refundable though given the shit we are currently serving up.
The atmosphere will probably be awful. Swansea annoyingly always seem to take results off us at home, needless to say we have to win this, not just for any lingering title hopes but our own sanity as well.
A glorious pub special. 2-1.
Easy win
1-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_siQqiT48TcQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
For which team? :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Actually I think we will have an easy win in this game, just enough to build us up for the Spurs game. And then we get royally screwed in the NLD to finish all doubts about the wheels coming off our PL title challenge.
Piss poor pub game, we will dominate possession, with no cutting edge. We will show tremendous spirit, but ultimately we will fall short 0-0
If I were forced to bet my last £10 on a correct score, 0-0 is the score I'd pick.
Please don't let it be that - for once, please show pride and pull out a performance.
I've just gone on Ticket Exchange - there are a FUCKLOAD of tickets available on almost every section of the ground.
It is almost as if people think the title challenge is over.
We'll win this.
If not, it's the final nail on the coffin.
The club will start selling nails on coffins if they can't sell tickets. According to football expert Paul Merson.
The funny thing is the same people who joyously or sarcastically predict a bad result will be the first ones to complain if their predictions happen .
After two disappointing results , I expect the team to raise their game .
I don't think anyone predicted a bad result against Utd did they? It was almost beyond comprehension that given what was at stake and what sort of ragtag team Utd were putting out we'd fail to get something from the game or even turn up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I think blaming the fans for the inadequacies of the manager and his team is becoming old and stale. Eventually the people who make the decisions and get paid to deliver the results will have to accept some responsibility.
You expect the team to raise their game? Why should they be in a position to require their game to be raised? How, in the middle of an alleged title challenge, was the game not raised to sufficient levels on Sunday? Leicester don't need to raise their game. The spuds don't need to raise their game. Why should all our highly paid internationals and our highly paid manager be any different? Do we congratulate them if they do us the honour of turning up next week?
Alpha, are you actually Arsene Wenger?
He is blaming the negativity of others for his shortcomings
His excuses are now on a par with Mourinhos
This should cheer everyone up.Quote:
Arsène Wenger has thanked people for their concern over his job security, as he responded to the avalanche of criticism that has followed Arsenal’s 3-2 Premier League defeat at Manchester United on Sunday with humour and a sense of perspective.
The manager sought to look ahead to Wednesday night’s visit from Swansea City, when his team will attempt to close the gap on the leaders, Leicester City, which stands at five points with 11 matches to play. He also confirmed that the midfielder, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, would be out for “six to eight weeks” with the knee-ligament injury that he suffered against Barcelona in the Champions League last Tuesday.
But the focus remained on the United loss, which has prompted an outpouring of frustration from supporters – some of whom are so cheesed off with the repetition of the same old frailties that they want to start again without Wenger. He has seen it all before, too, and he made his latest plea for unity.
“We have built this club, and it has been built before me, with values,” Wenger said. “What we try to do is respect these values and when we are disappointed, we need to show these values and clarity to fight together. Everybody has freedom of opinion and I enjoy very much that people care about my future. I thank them for that. Apart from that, in my life, I always taken care of myself and my future.
“What you want from your fans is to fight together until the last game of the season. What we have learnt from the league is that it is very tight, that everybody can drop points, and the teams – and the fans – who can show togetherness and solidarity until the end, might come out of it in a positive way. That’s what we want, to fight together until the last game of the season and not give up when you have a bad game or a bad result. That’s what fans and players and teams and clubs are about.”
Wenger has long taken the criticism he receives on the chin and he is not about to begin complaining now. “I’m never surprised by the criticism that comes,” he said. “That’s part of the media today. Part of the opinion is always a bit excessive and emotional, but we have to deal with that and I don’t complain about it. I think people are a bit too emotional and we want to put things into perspective by analysing things a bit more in a neutral way. This club is respected all over the world despite what people say.
“We want to transform the negatives into positives around us and create even more solidarity. Let’s not go overboard. We do not play to be relegated. We are playing to fight for the title. That’s why we have to put criticism in the right place.
“We had a very, very bad week and it’s down to us to make this week a very good one. A bad week is not permanent. It’s what you make of it and how you respond. That’s the beauty of sport. Things change quickly one way or the other.”
Wenger’s team is always lambasted for a lack of leaders and mental fortitude when they lose but the manager, unsurprisingly, continues to see it differently. “In a collective psyche, you always think you need a saviour when you have a bad result,” he said.
“We have won big games this season, many big games, with exactly the same players. I don’t feel that I lack leaders. Who are the leaders? The team. In every position. The players lead and we try to develop that with our work. Our job is to have a leader in every position.”
Wenger suggested that he might make a few changes against Swansea and he name-checked Danny Welbeck, who has only just returned from a long-term knee injury, as one player from the starting line-up at United who he would have to assess.
“It’s possible I will make changes,” Wenger said. “Some players are still not out of it. I will have to see if I have to be cautious with Danny Welbeck or not. Medically, I need advice on that and I will see.”
On Oxlade-Chamberlain, he said: “He will be out for six to eight weeks. No surgery. We feared surgery at some stage before we saw the MRI. In the end, we got, on that front, positive news.”
:bow:
He wants fans to be less emotional and to analyse things in a neutral way? WTF? If not for the emotion and bias that root fans in the club then that stadium would have been empty years ago. NO MONEY! We're fans (fanatics), shut the fuck up. We're doing our bit so you do yours and stop making excuses and trying to blame the people funding this shit show.
WUMger.:violin:
Needs to be murdered tbh
I wouldn't go that far, but if he could be rebooted and have Version.2004 re-installed, I'd be a bit happier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
that version is obsolete.
At the moment I really don't care Wengers Wankers have done it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
Well , I did not refer exclusively to the United game but there is a few fans who have that habit of predicting Arsenal loss before the game is even played . I wonder why are they disappointed if it happened exactly the way they said it would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I , personally ,feel disappointed after any defeat because I don't always expect us to lose and when it happen , I am deeply saddened.
You also asked why do the players have to raise their game ? Simply because the level we are at the moment can not guarantee us a win let alone a title . If we want to get something we need to play better .
I think Leicester and Tottenham have raised their games that's why they fighting for the title . otherwise , Leicester would be fighting relegation and Tottenham would be struggling for top four finish .
Actually , I believe that negative or positive vibes exist and can affect anything to a certain extent. Most of intimidating stadiums are those where fans and teams are in perfect harmony . Where the crowd can puss their team to the victory despite their weakeness . We hardly create that atmosphere at the Emirates. What makes playing a game away from home very tough is the atmosphere surrounding the stadium . And that is created by the fans and the performance of the team .Psychology plays a big part in sports .Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
This one won't be pretty, I think we'll get the job done though.
So, our team is mentally weak?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Alpha, it's not even the defeats, it's the manner of them, Sunday's performance was totally unacceptable IMO, it was bordering on embarrassing, I wasn't totally confident beforehand given that I don't fully trust this team but still I expected a more fluid performance. This team has been in a bit of a mess for a while now, we look totally disjointed, they are playing like they have never played together before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
What you say makes sense but away win ratios are at their highest and have been creeping up for the past five seasons. Home wins this season are also at an all time low so far, which means teams are avoiding defeats on ther travels quite often now. Alongside the counter attacking style used by so many currently, players are used to the intimidating atmospheres at stadiums and I'm not sure it has much affect on the modern player. The psychology of how a player is prepared before the match probably has more of an effect than anything the crowd does, as most of them live in an absolute bubble. The only time the crowd acknowledged is for a goal or after the game is done. They are mostly shut out. Highbury was never the loudest stadium but that didn't affect Wenger's great teams one bit. It would be great to hear more noise at the Emirates but its effect on the team is negligible I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
No fan WANTS the team to lose. But when you see these results against particular teams happen year after year you go into those games with trepidation - much like the players it seems. And then when the same outcome unfolds you think WTF! What's going on with this team, year after year? So you can want to win, be disappointed when you don't win but also not in the least bit surprised given the history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
My point about raising our game is if we aren't peaking now, at the business end of the season, with our squad experience, with our resources, with the club's experience of these pressure soaked title challenges in relation to the spud's and particularly Leicester's lack of experience then it's inexcusable. It really is. You have to conclude the manager has not done his job, has failed miserably to do his job, when you consider our performances over the last couple of months. All culminating in a limp-wristed capitulation to the worst equipped and worst managed Utd team in decades. It's a scandal and there's no explaining it away with tired old excuses that Leicester are busy blowing out of the water and a mile into the air. Leicester raised their game months ago and have kept their performance levels at a peak. The spuds have been relentless in the past couple of months, peaking just at the right time. It's as if they are the experienced campaigners and we are the nervous rank amateurs. Questions need to be asked and it wouldn't hurt the club or the manager to provide some answers. Instead you see sarcasm from the manager who is busy blaming other clubs for tapping up his players, pretending Utd's money had a bearing on Sunday's results and advising the fans who have watching this repetitive bullshit to be "neutral" and unemotional. This is a joke surely?
I understand that we have more chance of fixing this mess if the fans and the team are united, and I don't see any problem with that and I believe it's what will happen. But there's no requirement to include Wenger in the relationship. He knows best, he fucked up the transfer window, he took the big pay-cheque to manage at the top level and he has fucked up, again. Just as he does every season. There comes a point where the man's excuses have to be discounted and his performance analysed in a colder light. Is 10 years not enough time to reach a decision on this guy? Bottom line, he can't compete with Leicester City and our reviled rivals so what is he good for? And why do we need to support him? He plainly has no respect for the fans, look at his interview today. So let him live by his attitude and his failures. That doesn't stop us cheering on the team and I'm sure we will.
Any team which does not have a proper support may be mentally affected .Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
There are two kinds of situation here :
1) Some fans wait for their team to click before their can show any support .
or
2) Some fans scream , claps and push their team to make them click .
Current United squad is weaker than Arsenal's but last Sunday their fans gave them a proper support to push them to the victory .
Do you really believe it is the fans who need to step up now? Well okay, maybe so. But what about this manager and his team? Huge resources, huge pay packets, the best of everything and they can't be bothered to turn up? And the manager's response is basically to tell the fans to shut up? So which is it? Shut up or shout?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Totally agree with you , Selassie . But we should not just only point a finger at the team . All of us are concerned . Board , management , team , fans ,.. Etc .. We have let the Arsenal "family" down . What was once a great team , we have made it average .Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
No "we" have not! The fans have had the prices doubled on them and they are still filling the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
To be honest , there is a kind of vicious circle at Arsenal football club . The team wants the fans to be their 12th player before they can raise their game , the fans wait for the team to give them some joy before they can show any support .Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
You just do know what should come first .
It's not just the same Arsenal we have known for ages . Normally this period is when we are always starting to wake up but with 11 games remaining we still seem sleeping . hopefully we will wake and once for all tomorrow. I haven't given up for the title yet even though I know it will be very hard . we have never done it the easy way , have we?
It's like the last 10 years have been one constant loop, things should be different now but they're not, they're exactly the same thanks to one man repeating the same mistakes over and over, after being given ample opportunity to get it right. I do think the Emirates can be a suffocating place however no team has been more stagnant than us, we are right to demand more because we have been short changed. Players deal with all kinds of hostility wherever they play, if they're not mentally strong enough to deal with it then I'm not sure I want that kind of lily-livered personality in the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha