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Would be a brilliant signing
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Higuain 28
Cavani 29
Benzema 28
Suarez 29
Vardy 29
About time we had a grafter upfront
A one season wonder, reliant on pace he won't have in a year or two. Middle of the road signing for a middle of the road club.
Wenger will be thrilled though because he's cheap just like him.
Honestly you have to be impressed by how every one of your posts, every single one, manages to have a dig. That is what you call consistency. No idea how you manage it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Thanks, it's easy with a manager like him, he rarely fails to disappoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Zim it really is tiresome. We get it, you'll berate Wenger at every turn - please stop this occuring in every thread.
He's responsible for this signing is he not though? Who should I blame by him for a signing I don't rate? IMO he's totally the wrong signing, due to his age, the fact pace is his main asset and that at the age of 29 he has only performed in one season for Leicester, before this he could barely get a goal.
If you want the definition of someone who may be a one season wonder he's it surely? Very odd signing, the real gem at Leicester was Mahrez.
So far we've signed an unknown (though he looks like he may turn out to be good, however very expensive for an unknown player I have to say seeing as Gundogan went for 20 million) and it looks like we're signing a journeyman, whoopedeedoo.
When will transfer windows ever be exciting again?
You're complicit in bringing down every thread to the same discussion; just talk about the player.
Wouldn't have been my choice but if it happens then we've bagged ourselves one of the best PL strikers. One season wonder? Time will tell. A gamble worth taking though and I look forward to seeing him here, even if he is a huge cunt.
That's very debateable, if you look at last season then based on his goal record yes, but he's in reality totally unproven and has no record before last season and that's worrying 5 goals in his previous season and even before that in the Championship no less his record was average), as is his age, realistically he'll need replacing in a couple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
If he gets us two seasons of 20+ goals it'd be worth every penny.
Reading a lot of the comments (not just on this place) there's a lot of football snobbery going on tbh. I don't care if he isn't a fancy name, just as long as he scores goals, goals and goals!
As I said it's a gamble for the reasons you state but I'm only interested in the here and now. We need someone to hit the ground running and he's as good a bet as any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
It's very debateable whether he will, personally wanted a more long term option, when we got Henry he had a good few years left, Vardy doesn't so will need replacing again, which isn't great if you're building a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
These players who have one good season tend to struggle badly after that as people know all about them and mark them out of games and he really doesn't have the talent to overcome that unlike the better players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
IMO he'll get a handful of goals next season and if he doesn't score early he might really struggle, he's not really much of an upgrade on what we already have.
:lol: We finished 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I'm sceptical but if it is in the region of £20m then in today's market that's a steal and worth a punt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
But no, not my choice either.
I'm no fan of this potential signing for a few reasons but when you look at the strikers out there, any other signing would be a gamble. Janssen is young, very unproven and would have been cheap - something you are criticising the club for with Vardy. Lewandowski appears to be going to be Madrid. Aubmeyang I would be very surprised at being allowed to leave, what with 2/3 other key players on their way out the door. Higuain is a proven scorer but 29 years old, so not the longterm solution you are looking for and probably three times as much too. So anyone else is probably going to be a cheap or very expensive gamble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I would have preferred Vincent Janseen. But Vardy probably edges Morata. Just. Tough call really. He's 29 years old and only has two seasons at the top level under his belt. He only managed 5 goals last year. I just think something special happened in that Leicester camp and they willed their way through to win the title.
I worry he's this year's Michu/Ba. Time will tell.
There was paper talk in January about the chavs taking a punt on him, so why shouldn't we do the same? We have lacked that bite up front for too long now, let's give the guy a chance.
If we don't get him now and he rips up the Euros, then moves for bigger money we'd all be sat here thinking if the what ifs.
20mil for vary, or 50mil for a Torres type flop. I know which I'd rather take a punt on.
I prefer young and cheap than 29 and cheap because at least the former has a chance of improving, moreover because he's done it at a young age he's less likely to be a one season wonder IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Yes there's a shortage of quality out there unless you want to make a megabucks bid, however a 29 year old wouldn't be my choice regardless.
Like I said yesterday it was luck, weren't you paying attention?Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I'm with you on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
At 29 with one good season behind him he won't go for bigger money, clubs aren't mugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edinburgh Gooner
You pretty much finish where you deserve to over 38 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Had we been in Spurs' place and collapsed to let them overtake us then I very much doubt you'd be saying that they were 'lucky' to finish 2nd and we were 'unlucky' to finish 3rd. The season is 38 games long, we finished 2nd.
But anyway, as Maccy said this thread is about Vardy - let's talk about him and that potential signing rather than you just using this as another platform for your ongoing whineathon.
Yeah, I remember you saying Janseen looked decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Really?! Some of the big money thrown around on flops over the last few years says different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Now if we're smart we go and buy a young hotshot who can take his time to develop and we build ourselves that mega striker we currently can't afford or won't pay the money for. And in a way I'm with Wenger when it comes to some of the stupid figures being bandied about. Neymar, £130million? Martial currently valued at £80million. Seriously? Does any one player bring that much to a team? Well we know what we're getting with Vardy, a guy who will graft all day long and knows where the goal is. He'll also get straight into the box and dive. I'm not joking when I say that's something we have been missing. That's how it's done in this league. Rooney, Sterling, Costa, Young, Bale when he was here, Starfish, that's what we have been up against and we've come out on the losing side 9/10. Time to turn those tables.
If this happens it'll be our most effective signing in years, excluding Cech which was another much, much needed signing.
People really want to pay £60mill for Morata and then pay him another £30mill over 4 years in wages? We're worried about a striker who has just done the business and hoisted a PL title, yet we're cool with Morata coming in for the lion's share of our transfer budget? I don't get it.
Now we have the cash left over to go and get a top CB and we're ready. For once in the last decade we're ready.
Plus it's now possible to scrape up some sort of interest for England in the Euros. A nice Kane mega flop and Vardy to bag a few, that would be nice. Though if he joins us I guess he'll be straight out of Woy's reckoning once Martin Samuel sends word.
This. For those that bemoan his age. I read o. Here we signed Wright at a similar age, and that went well. Yes he uses his pace which will go in time, but he knows his way to goal, looks a natural tbh. Many are saying it's not their first choice, but he might just be one of two, and we get a younger player to bed in. If we get two seasons out of him and a decent tally of goals, £20mil is a bargain in today's market. So what if it's a stop gap? People are making out its easy to go get any top striker, but it isn't. There are not many around, some will want to stay with their current clubs, some clubs will ask silly money, some players will want silly money. It's not like playing championship manager, it's complex stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
As far as I am concerned, he will get us goals, he will take the burden off Giroud, it's another option, he is better than Theo, so for £20mil, I'm happy. He is 29, this will be his last move of note, so looking st the way he plays, he will bust a gut trying to make it work and become successful.
Must be worth signing just to keep NQ in a happy and positive mood :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Agree with this fully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Vardy's age might be an handicap for some people but ,to be fair , everyone must agree the guy knows where the nets are . And that is what matters the most for an out and out striker . No one can prophesy how long is he going to play top football for . Who knew that Ibrahimovic would be playing as a top striker at the age of 34 ?
Any signing is a gamble . If you are not ready to take any risks in your life , you will go nowhere . Vardy is not the type of signing which will excite you as an Arsenal fan but he deserves a chance . You never knows what he might bring to the team . Maybe that title we are crying for . We create so many chances that go begging but we always manage the top 4 finish . If Vardy can convert a quarter of those lost chances ,who knows what would happen ? I am not happy and excited by that a signing but I can not complain either . It would be complete if a Vincent Jassen is added .
Jassen does look good. Reminds me of RvC. But this is a GW rumour isn't it? Absolutely zero traction outside GW. Vardy plus this guy makes a lot of sense. I know Wenger reads GW because he likes to keep up to date with what I'm saying, so hopefully the name drops and we do the biz.
Not for players like Vardy with no proven track record and no exceptional talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He did, but he couldnt take it after december 2015, you broke him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He looks really good. Really intelligent finishing. Reminds me of Ruud and Persie and still very young. He has to be on someone's radar at the club? Top goal scorer in the Dutch league. We should be looking at the top 5 goal scorers across all of Europe since we need a striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
IF we signed Janssen as well I'd be happy, we won't though, Vardy will be the forward Wenger commented on when he was asked about Bambi's injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
When I first read about this "possible" transfer, I had to check that it was not April 1st. Overall, I am still in the uncertain group. However, there are some advantages that could come from it.
(1) He does know where the goal is and has a huge amount of confidence thanks to last season.
(2) A rival is weakened
(3) Other rivals will not have him.
(4) He definitely represents a Plan B (or will he be Plan A?).
(5) £20 million is a steal, especially compared to other options.
(6) He will be competition for Giroud.
What I am hoping will happen is that Arsenal will buy a young striker with potential, who will take over in a couple of years. At 21-years-old, Janssen would fit that description.
He's worth a punt IMO, again won't cost too much and is young a no brainer for me, Vardy's age is what concerns me, no room for improvement and no record before last season, between the two Janssen would have been a much better bet for me, scoring lots at a young age and potential to improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory