I'm declaring this has moved into It's on! territory now.
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-no-fee-agreed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-30m-deal.html
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I'm declaring this has moved into It's on! territory now.
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-no-fee-agreed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-30m-deal.html
Great player, always rated him.
Very good signing IMO - glad it seems to be close to being a done deal. Now time for Mahrez and If we are really serious, lacazzette as well.
Would've preferred Jonny Evans.
Still he could always play upfront for us.
Good signing. Very pleased if it goes through.
Not sure if he's truly ever going to be in the world class bracket, i.e. Boateng, Koscienly, peak Kompany, peak Terry etc etc, but he should be a good solid professional who can do an overall good job there. Besides, a lot of defending comes down to partnerships, understanding and organisation ahead of individual talent ...... see our very own Koscienly and Mertesacker as an example.
In some ways I actually enjoy the less heralded Monreal/Elneny/Koscienly (at the time) type signings over the mega big name transfers or the superkid transfers. Most of them are good professionals with the right attitude and work ethic and it demonstrates to Wenger that there's plenty of quality in the market and the fanbase isn't just all clamouring for big name superstar signings who can make an immediate impact.
Considering the crazy money thrown for the likes of Stones, Mangala, Bailly etc etc ..... 20 - 30 million for an established German international at a good age is a bargain in this market tbh.
Arsenal Germans :bow::bow:
Should get some more in tbh. *cough Draxler cough*
Never knowingly watched him, but he seems to have a good reputation and a good age as well.
Sounds more like a Koscielny type defender than a Mertesacker replacement.
This is a bit early although I know we are desperate.
Any other manager would have bought a defender this week ready for the weekend, given our injury problems.
I hope it happens.
I have to admit had never heard of the guy before he scored for Germany against Ukraine back in June
Good signing if it goes through, established international CB, fairly young too.
He Mustafi mental health issue if he wants to join us
:getcoat:
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Arsenal remain in talks with Shkodran Mustafi, but the defender’s agent has denied claims than agreement has been reached.
They don't even read the copy before it's published :lol:Quote:
Mustafi’s agent, Ali Bulut, told Spox.com: “Skhodran and Arsenal are in agreement. Now the clubs just have to agree a transfer fee.”
Not sure that's true.Quote:
However, the player’s father, Kujitim, has denied that any agreement has been reached.
Bulut then took to German publication Kicker to clarify the situation.
“There are discussions but there’s no agreement between Mustafi and Arsenal, or between both clubs,” he said.
Just wait until it's revealed on Pravda.
Mustafi snr has chipped in to say that this guy isn't even his sons agent :lol:
The media :bow:
I think Wenger's realised that he can get him cheaper if he gets him in January. Or even cheaper if he waits for his contract to run out. Or even cheaper if he doesn't buy him at all! Wenger knows :trophy:
So yeah I imagine Valencia will have risen the price by 5 million after today. :coffee:
Today i have read in german newspaper, that Valencia forbid Mustafi to sign for Arsenal and that there are no more negotiations. The Story goes on..and on...and on
No idea what is going on with this deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreas_AFC
At a guess we have spent two months trying to drive down his initial valuation price only for them to turn round and say "Fuck You, 50 million take it or leave it".
I've been reading that Barca are deep into negotiations with them over Paco Alcacer, if they sell him for the reported 30 million Euros then they meet their FFP quota and have no need to sell Mustafi or at least not at the initial 25 million Euro valuation they set.
£35m. Medical today per Ornstein
Wenger :bow:
Inflated market or not, there will be a lot of pressure on this guy to make a difference straight away. Being a German international must mean something you'd hope.
But Chambers :rose:
I reckon he'll be decent. Mainly because the thought of him being a dud and £35m down the shitter is too horrific to contemplate.
Only 5 million and 1 pound less than we were prepared to shell on Suarez. I wonder how a 50 or 55 mill bid back then would have transformed our fortunes? Everything is too late with this club, the irony being their penny pinching and prevarication ends up causing the one thing they are trying to avoid - expenditure.
The idiocy of it all is amazing. If they can get away with not spending they certainly will, but as you say they always end up spending it ..in a rushQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We could have got Lacazette for that and he's a proven goal scorer, more than the other guy anyway. Anyhoo, onwards and onwards, time will tell how good they both are and they will pull on the shirt, so they will get my cheers.
Wenger seemed very determined not to pay the going rate for Lacazette. Don't know why. It was probably another one of his qualiteeee judgements. You take Theo as the baseline and if he's not 10,000 times better then it is not the qualiteeee we are looking for.
Mustafi? Well he'd better be great at that price.
If an agent had sidled in and lined up Mustafi, Perez, Xhaka, Asano and Holding and whispered past his hand, yours for £90mill mate...
Who would have taken that? I think I'd have laughed and asked if he was fucking kidding me.
I think it's because he's black, Wenger used to love signing french speaking players of african descent in the 90s and early noughties....the last ten years ago he seems to have lost his infatuation for the ebony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Well, I think, using Wenger's reasoning of not paying big for players, £34 mil its too much for Xhaka.
More importantly, this pissing around has cost us 5 points on all our supposed rivals. From this point on we need to win 2 more games than Utd, the gypos AND the chavs to finish at the top. For me that pretty much ends the title hunt, not that we were seriously in it anyway. The tortoise relied on one hare falling asleep, we need 3 of them to take a nap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
BECAUSE... we were short at the back
AND... we could score a goal.
It's all so painfully predictable.
You could be on to something. He's even kicked Henry out, and I can imagine Henry standing there shocked asking, 'Is it because I is black?' And I can imagine Wenger saying, 'Yes, that's exactly what it's about.' This all seems to have happened following Wenger breaking up with that black stripper he was dating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Lacazette for 50m is about right in the current market. This Perez dude looks decent but we need someone better than decent to challenge.
Another season of also rans awaits...
A high scoring striker was never going to be enough if our midfield and wide players remain goal shy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
I'll leave this here
http://i.imgur.com/XhZ1tRJ.gifv
A high scoring striker will win you matches and that's really what we needed last season, someone who is clinical, from what we hear of Perez he isn't, which means we haven't solved any issues really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
A scoring winger is a bonus, we really should have gone all in for Lacazette, instead we've settled for a something less than what was needed.
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by bignev
:lol: Classic!Quote:
Originally Posted by bignev
:lol: Very true, we scoffed at the price of Lacazette when a) had we moved earlier in the summer we could have got him for less and b) the price is not unrealistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
As for the signings, very few people would have heard of any of those players and that's ignoring the fact we had to pay 90 million for them.
Fine Mustafi plays for Germany but again we got ripped off there because we didn't move early, it's a lot of money for a CB.
I'll take the signings, not what I wanted that's for sure and never heard of any of them back in May/June but Wenger likes that, he loves signing pet projects and then being hailed for discovering them.
I wouldn't of thought a high scoring striker could win matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Anyway, it doesn't detract from the fact we don't get enough goals elsewhere in the team. As any successful side needs.
This is a thread about a defender anyway, enough of this bollocks from me in here.
Shkodran is a great name.
Has always looked solid for Germany and can fill in reliably at full-back too.
He should settle in pretty quickly with his Albanian bro Xhaka here, plus all the Germans.