Great game. Unfortunate not to get all 3 points in the end
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Great game. Unfortunate not to get all 3 points in the end
Wenger knows what he's doing.
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Pure comedy. :haha:
Stuff of Champions.
Wenger's game plan works to perfection.
Whataguy :bow:
Team somehow overcame Wenger and escaped with a point. Mostly because Cavani is a bit shit in front of goal, but Ospina did his bit too.
As ever, we are here to make up the numbers.
Could've fucking won that game easily with the right team selection
Point isn't bad though.
Two games in a row where we comitted brazen daylight robbery. We are brilliant.
In other news, Brendan Rogers just got raped
Hard luck on Bif.
Crowd were out for him from the moment he crossed the line. Had some ridiculous fouls called against him. Shithole Parisian crowd still crying about the Euro's.
Rooney tells a ref to fuck off, he gets a pat on the back. Bif shouts down the ref for a shit call and gets a yellow. Intimated by the crowd far too easily.
Small but significant EditQuote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Ospina and Cavani MOTM for Arsenal. Hard to choose.
I know, Wenger is sort of fucking wind up merchant!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchies
Top of the group. :bow:
Alphabetical order. :bow:
PSG bottom. :haha:
Money well spent.
Ospina motm, otherwise it would've been much worse. Wenger starting 11 baffles me not exactly the strongest available. Wenger's inept qualities in tactics nearly gave us another opening day loss, it's really worrying to see our team struggle to create half decent chances and atm I'm more concerned about our attack than defense. Ps the Ox should never start a big match.
Absolute travesty that we weren't beaten 4-1
Shows why I don't rate PSG or Cavani, the ease with which he got past our centre backs and yet still couldn't finish
The useless commentary team raving about Ospina, I can't think of one save he made which he shouldn't have been able to make, his ball distribution is still shocking and it's only because PSG look gubbins at attacking set pieces that he wasn't exposed for the second rate fraud that he is. Cavani made Ospina look good, had that been Lewandowski....no such deception.
Monreal, it's all over for him.....totally had on toast by Serge Aurier
Coquelin offered no protection to us, and actually looked better going forward than he did at the back, that's not praising him by the way that's just pointing out a) how bad he was at his job and b) how blunt we were in attack for most of the evening.
It's been put to bed now, Sanchez cannot play upfront he lacks the positional discipline, that's not a criticism of him it's just not his game, he looked a different and better player when he played wide left and he finished superbly
Iwobi still looks raw, but actually one of the players who got better as the game went on
Bellerin one of the only bright sparks in the whole team, Ozil looked disinterested and Cazorla was just pressed out of the game.
This was a horrendous performance, Wengers team selection should have seen his arse handed to him....fortunately for him and unfortunately for us we played a side that won't win the champions league because if it's at all possible are less clinical than us.
:lol:He'll probably try and claim it's a great resultQuote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
A shitty performance that illustrated why our European credentials have been non-existent for many years now.
Pubbed ourselves a point thanks to a mixture of dodgy finishing from Cavani and some decent stops from Ospina. In the context of the group it's a pretty useful point and I would have taken it before kick off.
On we go.
Utter shit apart from the two episodes of Parks and Recreation.
Shit performance but we were lucky not to lose and take a hammering. PSG are in shit form remember.
Time to call time on Ox. He can start games playing like that. Ospina had dodgy moments but saved our bacon. Way too soon to start Iwobi in major games. Ozil's gone back to his old shit self. One good half last season doesn't give him a free ride. We've Nasri and Ramsey boss things for half a season and go right back to shitness so no surprises there. Cazorla blows hot and cold too much. Good one game and shit the next. Elneny and Xhaka really should be getting games.
And Giroud....well done. :lol: Hold a bench! Idiot.
Going to give that another go. During our next CL match. See if I can get into it this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Definitely would have taken this result before kick off, however it's kind of been sullied by how abjectly we playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think this is up there with the defeats to United at old Trafford in February and the defeat to Swansea as one of the worst performances in 2016.
Monreal, Coquelin, Oxlade Chamberlain should all be ashamed of themselves
I said I'd settle for being entertained, so I guess watching Cavani try to score a goal fulfilled my requirement. And watching Wenger try to pick a team iced it.
After tonight I would drop Ox, the worst thing about him was that I think he was actually putting in a lot of effort, he just seems to have been totally overcome by Wengeritis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Hopefully (and I can't believe I'm saying this) Walcott isn't out for too long.
Don't feel comfortable playing Iwobi, think as an attacking player he's got excellent potential but seeing as a) as a wide player he comes inside too often and b) he can't be relied upon to bale out Monreal who was as responsible as Mustafi for our first goal and was abject all evening....I don't think he can be trusted.
Ox needs a new start somewhere else. Not going to happen for him here.
Maybe he might wake up and realise his potential, instead of doing the same shit game after game.
At the moment we need him, simply because we don't have many natural wide players....so we don't even have the option of sending him out on loan somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
I think injury and not being able to consistently get a run in the side has brought this. It annoys me, unlike Walcott Ox is an incredibly talented player he has great technical ability....which makes the runny watery poo he has produced of late all the more galling.
And if anyone suggests playing Ramsey on the right slowing us down even further in the words of Liam Neeson "I will find you and I will kill you".
It's a bit like the horrible you don't have to be crazy to work here but it helps, we don't have to have Ramsey in the team to be shit, slow and totally blunt, but it helps.
Weak referee scared of the crowd
https://streamable.com/9maq
It's probably the one area of the squad were I think we're lacking in terms of personnel. There really is going to be huge pressure on Iwobi this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
You don't need 'natural' wide players, few of those exist in the modern set-up because the movement of most teams have different requirements now. It's about good timing of runs and being able to put a ball behind or across the defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Iwobi, Alexis should be in front of him. He's wasted his chances every season for as long as we can remember. He makes the same mistakes again and again and has no one else to blame for that. Ox has the 'potential' to be good but he's nothing more than a wish, a thin hope that hasn't developed. Time to get rid. Nothing is going to change here. Id prefer to see The Jeff given a go there now. The kid's a waste of space.
Ramsey would do a far better job down the right. We don't play on the break. Teams sit deep so this isn't about pace. That is another reason why Ox struggles. Ramsey played fantastically well in that position through out 2015. He can't play in the middle two, or as a number ten and out wide he covers Bellerin, gets up to the other end, makes great runs (needs to calm his finishing) and adds an extra number to the midfield when needed.
I knew our best result would be a draw tonight. I'm not surprised . But the line-up and the performances were stunning and disappointing.
I hope Alexis is moved back to left where he has been most effective for us. This experiment with him up front needs to end.
Give Perez a chance to get up to speed instead.
Giroud does nothing wrong... he's even holding his arms up and trying to stay out of it. The PSG number 5 pushes him twice and nothing happens to him? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Bif was stupid enough to talk himself into the book but yeah that's a ridiculous red card. Awful from the ref.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
You were warned about that, what happens next is on youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kano
The worst thing he done was a shoulder block of their defender - he recieved a straight red, not even a second yellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Crowd had full control over the ref when it came to Bif. They were baying for blood and the ref duly obliged.
I think Alexis could actually do well up front if the rest of the team weren't spastics. It's the tactics. Nobody getting closer to him to support him, no one making runs beyond him, no one making use of the wings. They were hitting long balls to him and standing off him as if it was Giroud up front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think we'll have the same problem even if Perez is up front. The same thing happened against Southampton a few days ago. It's because Wenger doesn't give them clear instructions and leaves it to the players to all work it out themselves.
Giroud kicked him and leaned in for the headbutt. It's sneaky but the ref caught him. Correct decision. Deserved sending off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
While I agree the set up around him is poor, he hunts down the ball at any given opportunity and that often means running back into midfield doing their jobs for them. It's just the kind of player he is, he's too far gone to be coached. He's our best attacker and we shouldn't be doing anything to jeopardise his effectiveness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
I say give Perez a go because by all accounts he's more of a natural striker and might be able to work his way into scoring positions with patience and intelligence.
Wenger clearly has no idea of what his ideal line up should be. Every game so far has felt like an experiment.
He was pushed into Veratti by Marquinhos though... unless you mean before that video clip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Nah before that Giroud blocks Veratti with his shoulder and ends up on the floor, the ref is running up field with his back to play. Veratti is also sent off for no reason. The ref didn't have f clue what he was doing. He heard the crowd going nuts again, saw a quick view of a couple of players getting off the floor and sent them both off. Clueless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Ref actually tried to keep Bif on the pitch, but Bif made it impossible. Within minutes of coming on he was screaming and gesturing at the ref. Most Euro refs get the book out. This one warned him. Then repeat, screaming, shouting, waving. Booked. Then he spent the rest of the time playing sneaky fouls with the defence, he fouled them, they fouled him. Bif moaned to the ref every time. Eventually he moaned his way into the second yellow, which wasn't given for the foul but for the follow-up abuse by the look of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
It was an absolutely dreadful performance from Bif. Either he had the hump at not being selected or else he let the crowd get to him.
Dead right on Alexis and any other striker in this set-up. They have zero chance and would be completely isolated if they didn't come back to get them ball themselves. We almost don't need a striker the way Wenger has things set up.