I never doubted us.
Mesut. :bow:
GOAT.
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I never doubted us.
Mesut. :bow:
GOAT.
Lovely.
Please no Ramsey on Sunday
Job done.
Time to mash some Spuds.
Excellent recovery. Qualification sorted.
What a goal from Ozil! :bow:
On to the Spuds. :popcorn:
Hear, Hear (stands up and sits)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Embarassing display.
Ramsey clearly has special needs, can't even trap a ball anymore
Not an easy game, just because we trashed them at The Grove didn't mean we were going to trash them tonight. A couple of quick goals, normally that would have seen us struggling to score, but we battled and got the win. A good win all in all.
Harsh on Ramsey tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
17 consecutive seasons in the knock out round is all very nice. About time we won the fucking thing!
Can't disagree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by adzzzbatch
A poor performance but showed enough character to get us out of the hole we dug for ourselves.
Arsenal :bow:.
Ozil :bow:.
Wenger :bow:.
What a goal Ozil :bow:
After we levelled it I thought we would come out all guns blazing but we were awful in the second half. It's hard to play with Giroud up front by himself, he's too slow and static. Alexis is much more dynamic and unpredictable.
What's going on with our defending? Gibbs and Jenkinson aren't good enough but even with Bellerin and Monreal in the side we've been getting cut open. Need to sort ourselves out right now because we won't keep getting away with it.
Good result. Fantastic goal from Ozil.
Very interesting game against PSG coming up. I'd love to think we can beat a big team at home and secure progression at the top of the group. It's been a long time coming. The euphoria would be on a par with Bayern Munich a year ago and the two home games against Barcelona a few years ago in the knockout stages
Wenger is the most incredible twat imaginable. He'll always find a way to fuck up. Always. We'll never win anything with this dick in charge. Ozil pulls his sorry incompetent arse from the fire but wait until you see the shit talk about the spirit and blah, blah, blah bollocks as if he's not a completely fucking incompetent moron. He needs to fuck off so we can get a proper manager in here.
Class that needs to be watched again and again
http://arsenalist.com/f/2016-17/ludo...the-floor.html
I just hope he reverts back to our strongest team for the spuds. Giroud is a good option to have on the bench. And Iwobi is better than Ramsey.
Iwobi needed a break and it was a smart move to put him on the bench today. Alexis will be back upfront on Sunday.
Yep I had no issues giving him a break tonight and getting Ramsey some game time. I'd just be disappointed if Iwobi loses his place, which has happened before with junior players making way for Wenger's favourites.
If he doesn't realise his strongest eleven now, he never will.
I imagine Iwobi will be back in for Sunday. Barring injuries I think our first 11 picks itself this season.
Ozil's form at club level now is amazing. 3 points tonight, when all looked lost after 15 minutes. Nice job.
Spuds then United to come now. :popcorn:
Nice to head into these big games in a rich vein of form for once.
Hmmm that comes with a big fat caveatQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Has our form really been that good, or have we just been beating teams we should be beating
Since the internationals we have had possibly the easiest games we are going to play all season, and yet we didn't even win all of them, it also contained an unnecessary massive struggle against both Swansea and Ludogorets last night
Frankly the only big win we've got this season is against Chelsea and they were awful, I think unless we play far better than we have all season, I expect Spurs to win comfortably.
Our defending has really been careless this season
Some of the goals we've conceded are just embarassing
Our attacking fluidity has I admit improved, but this only appears to happen in spells and often we are doing pass, pass, pass, sideways pass, backwards pass
Even our own players get sick of it, into the second half Koscielny just drove forward with the ball and that run created our first shot on goal for about ten minutes.
I’ll check the highlights later tonight. Sounds like a shit game with a sublime finish. The midfield having no control over the game is a worry because it’s a combination that should have that balance of defence, distribution and creativity. Giroud up front starting games doesn’t work. Wenger needs to learn this lesson quickly. 3 goals in 2 games should be enough for any striker to get back into the first team but not if it stifles the rest of the team. This is exactly where we went wrong last season when Walcott got injured. We don’t need a striker that can hold up the ball. We need mobility and pace.
Again I hate to have to underline this again, this is a Bulgarian team. Our main striker could be Corky from Life Goes on (not Wayne Rooney who looks like Corky from life goes on) and we should still find a way to win.
Their defence was more porous than a Chinese girls face.
Kind of underpins how wrong we've got things in that case. Not sure if all can be put down to Giroud and his style, have to watch the game, but it says a lot that we struggled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
To be fair I don't think having Ramsey and Sanchez on the wings helps much either, both like to come inside and congest the middle. There is a really nice balance with Walcott and Iwobi on the flanks.
Giroud still has an important role to play, he is a good alternative to Sanchez and a proven goalscorer. I really don't know where I stand on Ramsey though, I don't think he merits all of the criticism he gets but I also cant see an obvious position for him. Perhaps to be used as a back up for Ozil in his new more attacking role, making runs in behind the striker (Sanchez or Giroud). Yet Wenger often seems to want to crowbar him into the starting line up, even if to the detriment of the balance of the side.
Wenger tried to play it safe last night. We were all wondering if he'd rest players or go full strength, because those were the two logical options. Of course this is Wenger so he outfoxed us again by pulling a turd from his bag of shit that nobody had considered. Don't rest the key men (which I agree with), instead fuck with their positions, rip the pace out of the team, and install a lamppost up top. Then tippety tap it all night long and wait for a breakthrough against a team he underestimated as usual. A piece of Ozil magic makes it look like it worked, if you only focus on the scoreline. 9 times out 10 that last goal is never going to happen like that. Brilliant goal, brilliant individual skill, but that's what Wenger left us relying on in order to stay in front of PSG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
If he wanted to rest Iwobi then why put him on the plane at all? The guy rested by flying to Bulgaria and back. Fucking stupid. Either rest him or don't.
Now we all have to wait to see if the managerial maestro we are blessed with finds a way to work Giroud into his plans for Sunday. A little bit of panic and a run to safety is what we need for our first real test in weeks. Play it safe. Rely on the defence he plainly doesn't bother working with to keep it tight and see if we can nick a 1-0. That should work.
Wenger IS the handbrake. Whenever we start to get some momentum he does something incredibly stupid. He should stay at home for November and let the lads get on with it. Huge month that will properly test our title credentials and I believe we have the players that can meet the test. But the manager. Damn. He's a hell of a hurdle to have to keep jumping over.
Perhaps, i have no doubt of the individual talent of the side but many of them have all the character and personality of a Victoria sponge
The idea that they are prisoners of Wenger's regimented system is overstated to say the least, they play the tippy tappy passing football because it is their natural recourse.....so there would be in my mind no noticeable improvement even if Wenger was sent on Sabbatical to Capri with Sonia Tatar.
Yeah we were a mess at the back last night, Ospina looked very shakey, as did all of the back four, our full backs especially, closely followed by Mustafi who I thought was awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Obviously our 2 first choice full backs and Cech were missing but we need to sort it out at the back as I agree it's not the first time we've given away really poor goals.
I think with the return of Theo, Santi and Iwobi our offensive play will improve, we clearly look a much better side with Sanchez upfront flanked by Theo and Iwobi.
Ramsey works better on the wing, he worked out perfectly well there for most of 2015. An extra man that can get forward, put in a cross (as we saw last night), come inside as an extra man in midfield, make runs beyond and off Giroud and protect the right side when Bellerin the right back pushes forward. None of the roles in the front four are rigid, they all interchange. Even Giroud was coming out to the wings to pick up the ball, and of course was the one that got back to win it in our own half, onto Elneny who chipped it over to Ozil for the winner. Our defence was a key problem last night, that is where the mistakes came from - two shots, two goals. It's been a problem all season and last night the opposition made the most of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
He works better when not played at all, yes he put in a good cross last night. But Ox put in a good cross on saturday he was in all other aspects utter dross and Ramsey was even worse.
Yes of course.
Ludograts aren't a joke though especially at their place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Real Madrid scraped through with a 2 - 1 win last year and Pool required a dodgy last minute pelanty to win there. PSG also went one down before coming back.
This is my only worry this season, Wenger will keep sticking him in the lineup, regardless of his play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I hate to pile so much on one player, but Ramsey needs to leave this club.
That's exactly how I saw it. Just could not believe he would shunt Sanchez back out wide to accommodate Giroud, .....after how Sanchez up top has completely transformed our attacking potency, unbelievably dumb ass move. If Sanchez is on the pitch he should be up top as the striker, unless Giroud has come on as a sub in a game we either winning comfortably or chasing desperately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Could the slacking dicktaking, sorry dictating, mods please unlock the spuds match thread, thank you.
Liverpool only actually drew there, but this was a Liverpool side that finished below Basel in the tableQuote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico