Hungry for Oatcake.
Holding. :bow:
Played well and took Arnautovic out.
Crouch is disgusting filth along with the rest of them.
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Hungry for Oatcake.
Holding. :bow:
Played well and took Arnautovic out.
Crouch is disgusting filth along with the rest of them.
Wenger out!
Agreed but great showing today, really enjoyed that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We were ruthless today, really good and solid performance from back to front. Here'a hoping the dippers drop points tomorrow because I can't see us making top 4 if they don't. Top 4 is a real possibility now, fair play to the lads for making a go of it.
So was Ozil good or bad in that game?
Theory says he doesn't like it up'im away at Stoke. But between himself, Alexis, Coquelin and Xhaka they kicked orc butt.
I'm forever blowing bubbles...
Fellowship of the top 4.:cheer:
Only need some giant eagles to carry us there and tear up the Liverpudlians.
Oi - you nicked my thread!
Wenger out should be #1 post. Nothing changes.
Satisfying result though.
Holding though...
West Ham have done us great favours in the past. Hope it continues 2mrw.
Wenger out BTW!
Proof will be next season. Any defender who can survive 2 seasons under Wenger is big news.Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
Holding's interview. :bow:
Should be the fourth post strictly speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I'd have more respect for them if they'd have turned on that sort of performance against Spurs. Absolute fuckers for turning up to fight for 4th.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
No. My title was quality. Yours was pure establishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I got the clicks. You rigged the system to restore the status quo.
Doesn't matter. Eventually the people will rise up.
Yeah. Nothing changes. It's a fucked season and we're clawing our way to the very edge of the action. There's nothing to crow about in the big scheme. But as a one off, sweet to thump the orcs in their pit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Typical fuckers laughing off Crouch handball. If he were foreign they'd be slating him and not calling it smart and showing experience.
We have to keep Alexis. As a club, if we have any ambition, we have to keep him.
Better game from Ozil. You can tell when he's on his game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Agreed. Any Arsenal team that puts out that pathetic performance against Spurs can get no love from me. Spineless morons. Top 4. Its nice but irrelevant. More hammerings against the elite clubs are our continued fate under Wenger. He will tell us close season that he has searched the world and not found a better AM than rancid Ramsey. Bull!Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
The Wenger thing is over. He's going to waltz through the raindrops - AGAIN. So forget about him, we can't do anything about it.
But when Dean applied the pressure and the orcs started following Hughes' Plan B (can't win so kick and elbow them), we actually stepped up today. Sure, they don't get medals for doing it 5% of the time. But there was a little bit of what makes football worthwhile wrapped in that match. Got the blood flowing at least. Fucking hate those orcs and we just stuffed them on their own patch, despite their antics and the intervention of Dean. Sweet enough for this one weekend.
SSN aren't even mentioning it as a handball at all, he just pulled the game back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
He's more likely to dance through the raindrops if he's able to convince the Board he's able to turn things around. If he walks into the contract talks with zero leverage and doesn't deliver a damn thing on the footballing or financial side, there is more of chance he's shown the exit. I don't care about the Top 4 because we're going to lose Sanchez anyway and we have no chance of winning the competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Great win, some really good individual performances and another solid game from Holding.
If Liverpool win tomorrow then I can't see us catching them considering they have boro at home as their last game. City were a bit lucky today with that Mahrez penalty and should have drawn. They have West Bromwich at home and then go to Watford so hopefully they drop points.
Al I care about right now is the final, if we can produce anything like we did today then we should match them. Wenger cannot go into that game with a negative approach, he has to show some balls and go for it.
Yeah me too, this season on the whole has been nothing short of a disgrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
About top 4, I had written it off weeks ago so getting it now would be a nice surprise, more so for seeing the Dippers bottle it, up until now they have been 2nd, 3rd and 4th pretty much all season.
Nothing changes for me irrespective of where we finish and how we do in the FA Cup Final, Wenger has to go...
I hate Stoke inbred cunts.
It makes me happy we stopped their breeding for a day.
Disgusting Pulises.
4th place cup. :cloud9:
It's coming home.
100 consecutive games since our captain started? :wacko:Quote:
The match against Stoke marked the 100th consecutive Arsenal starting line-up which didn't include their club captain.
Often criticised as lacking leaders in the Arsenal team the statistic demonstrates the injury problems suffered by current captain Per Mertesacker and predecessor Mikel Arteta.
The last time a club captain started a match for the Gunners was back in November 2014 when Arteta was skipper.
Arteta was a glorified cheerleader in the end, much like Merts is now.
LOL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
I predicted ages ago we would get top 4 and probably not win the FA cup.....I hope I'm wrong or half wrong!
After today's game, I bet Bif starts the final. Also, I think he'll take a gamble on Ox starting if fit.
This 343 formation is at least unpredictable and not as easy to defend against as our previous "formation". I saw some nice interchanges between the front players and the wing backs are very hard to defend against because nobody knows who to pick up. Montreal got in behind loads of time yesterday (and against City where he scored a crucial goal) and i hope he stays there instead of playing as the third CB. Gibbs is too robotic to play as a wing back, he doesnt commit forward and is happy just passing it to the nearest Arsenal player.
The crouch handball goal was a pivotal moment in that match, too often we have just felt sorry for ourselves and shot ourselves in the foot through being indignant.
It's a head scratcher because sometimes we think it seems settled that there are many players in the squad that just aren't good enough.
Ramsey would be one of those, but judging him on the last three games that's an unsafe assumption because he has played well....his cameo yesterday was positive and through sheer force of will outmuscled Stoke defender to provide another assist for Giroud.
It's infuriating, what is Wenger doing if his players are capable of playing like that against Stoke and yet be so utterly feeble against Spurs. It helped yesterday that we were agressive and on the front foot from the off, yet we've been so often hesitant to start games that way.
You could say Stoke had nothing to play for, but to be fair they are very rarely ever battling relegation or pushing for European spot when we do play them. It's absurd, we clearly have decent players that we aren't getting enough out of when it really matters.
Its pretty much ingrained into this club that top 4 is all that matters. I would not be surprised to find that there are secret bonus clauses written into the players and managers contracts. How else an you understand such a feeble performance against Spurs. back in the 90s we would have gone there simply with the mind to fuck them up, derail any hopes of the title, such as they would ever wish to do wth us. Can you imagine Adams, Keown and co going to WHL and hoping for a draw? But Wenger was afraid as such went with a belt and braces approach simply to contain them. Monreal and Gibbs. All to no effect. they battered us from the off and we were elated to go in at HT level. The warrior spirit is essential to win anything, even if you lack the top level quality. You must have the determination to not be overcome in a fair duel. If someone could promise them 4th place at the start of the season you would see them promptly lose every single match.
West ham wanted the satisfaction of messing up the Spuds, we are their traditional rivals and couldn't be arsed. Fans deserve better.
I hear they are trained not to get involved in physical matches. To pass their way out rather than get stuck in. It plainly doesnt work. Even a team as talented as Madrid. They scrote first, then they play. Its the only way.
It's typical Arsenal. Always manage to do just about enough to keep our heads above water. Stink the place out for most of the year but when Top 4 is in peril we suddenly find all the ingredients that were missing when we really needed them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Bollocks to this top 4 push, go and do it in the cup final and you'll have my respect.
But that raises the question if you can play like that for top four, why not for the title push?
It's totally bizarre. You can't simply dismiss it as being unable to handle pressure because if they are under pressure to reach top four wouldn't they equally fold under pressure.
I don't believe for a second Wenger is telling them not to try to win the league or not put the effort in unless top four is on the line, so I don't get it.
On a side note, can you imagine the reaction if one of our players scored that Crouch goal?
Because it's Crouch, it's been laughed off. He was using his experience apparently!
Because top 4 is the bare minimum required of them. To challenge for the title is to go above and beyond and that takes a different mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
But is it what is required of him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think it's fair to say that he probably wouldn't have been sacked if he had finished outside the top four
The consensus is that he would be staying with us top four or not.
And even if top four was such a priority, would it not be better to do it without by the skin of our teeth by getting positive results against palace or Spurs.
I agree with you that the manager isn't under pressure to achieve more. But there's something more here.