Yep been on the sports channels this morning, apparently Chlichy is already there having a medical before a £10mil move and Nasri is just beginning talks over a £22mil move.
Good or bad?
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Yep been on the sports channels this morning, apparently Chlichy is already there having a medical before a £10mil move and Nasri is just beginning talks over a £22mil move.
Good or bad?
Clichy good Nasri bad
Overall bad news because we won't be able to immediately sufficiently replace them for 32million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
Our first XI is going to be so weak come the first day of the season, Arsene has major major work to do in the market this summer.
P.S. I'm just trying to get my head around the fact we're selling two first teamers to a CL rival...it's absolute bonkers.
If Cesc and Nasri/Clichygo, we are in a bit of a hole and I question why on earth we would let another team especially one of our so called rivals do it to us.
I was definitely preparing myself for Cescs departure and thinking we could slot Nas in the place left by him......not to be if reports are to be believed
however holes are to be gotten out of and we are collectively going to have have to work our tails off to get out of this one, but we can do it.......this time Wenger may not be having to work with a young team, more like a brand spanking new one
great prices, particularly for nasri.
clichy can f off and nasri has only shown 6 months to us so far. good luck to him doing the same with citehs defensive set up
nasri will be a loss. i won't mourn over clichy, tho.
who'll take samir's spot if he leaves???
Won't be particularly sad to see them go, especially Clichy.
Nasri seriously strengthens City though. He's better than anyone they have in midfield.
Eboue just hears he is to replace Nasri
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This.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
How would you propose we stop it then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
Mixed feelings really. I believe we will be directly strengthening City but we at least we will get a bit of value for 2 wantaway players in their last year of contract. What we do with the money is the issue really, we're in talks with ox chamberlain now and you think he will probably cost whatever Clichy goes for, do we really need to spend big on kids?
When wenger said there would be big changes this summer i didnt realise he meant selling all our best players and keeping the dross, at the press conference, which may not happen now, i want to hear he is ridding us of the shit as well not just the good stuff
Would be fine about Clichy, would not be fine about Nasri. Not only will we be losing one of our better players but who trusts Wenger to replace him adequately.
If we lose Cesc, Nasri and Clichy and don't get rid of Denilson and Bendtner it will have been another disastrous summer....so much for great spirit and togetherness!
We are a selling club so it shouldn't come as much surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
I wonder if Gareth Barry or Milner will be coming the other way as well
Wash your fucking mouth out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
Barry. :lol:
I'd have Milner though to increase the GHEL quota.
sorry Letters, I said I question it, sadly I don't have the answer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
I said in a previous post that I feel that a lot of clubs don't take us seriously - the top two/three do not see us as a threat and the ones under us know how to play us and expose our weaknesses.......
we need to man up in ebvery department both on and off the field.....and if we are to lose players we get their worth and we reinvest it back into the team. We are in the CL, just so we still have appeal but not magnatism - we need to show that we are serious about our status as a top team both at home in Europe - get rid of the wishy washy - shed ourselves of our dross and get in quality/battle tested replacements. Keep the youth policy in - but not rely on it as the only way - kids need role modals and maybe our current crop of mature players and their behaviour is not providing them with one - unless they are looking to learn how not to do things (however the management/board and not shining examples either) - shit they should be more like us - we're what it's all about - proud to be a Gooner
sorry Letters.....said I didn't have an answer but looks like I had at least something to say - whethe you agree is another thing
i thought selling players involved clubs wanting to pay for them too?Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
people come online, turn on their tv, listen to talksport all day, getting every single minute piece of media info pumped into their head and then get upset when they dont see instant results from their club. the window only opens today and already the media have got 98% of fans by the nuts. its hilarious
City can blow us out of the water with any contract offer, so there's not much we can do about that really. I would say though that allowing a player to run his contract down to the final year should never be allowed to happen again. Gazidis touched on that at the AST meeting, he said we weren't perfect and can improve here.
If someone refuse to sign in advance, that means the writing is probably on the wall.
Lol at SAF if City get Nasri.
Outbid again.
Yeah but he's already signed 3 players.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Yeah it does, unfortunately nobody wants them as they're cr*p, only people like Wenger are happy to keep them for years on end paying than huge amounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Unfortunately now we're stuck with them whilst our best players are looking for new pastures.
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
I can't help it if he doesn't believe in "waiting periods" and instead prefers to get his business done early so that he has a good chance of getting his targets.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
It was having a laugh dufus.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Im lost for words.
I wanted to have a cull and buy in some experienced new players, but Im not sure this was what I was expecting.
Clichy Im not particularly bothered about, but Nasri going to Citeh could be a huge blow for us, especially if we sell Cesc too.
WTF is goin on?!?! Arsene better have some quality players lined up to replace them or he'll be out of a job by January.
OK wasn't funny though, just so you know :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
That's twice this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
I need a cold bath.
You're all a bunch of cunts <_<
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Originally Posted by LDG
:haha:
Lollers. :lol:
Whatever way you look at it, its quite depressing. OK we can say 'paper talk' all we like - but the fact is that there's no smoke without fire, and I don't think our reputation has been as low as it is currently since Wenger arrived. The reality is that Wenger is fighting to keep his best players - and this has a very 'end of era' feel to it.
Hmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng
Like when we got rid of all the invincibles??
Thing is. This current set up has won us fuck all, and we need a change. As we're obviously not changing the manager, we can only do one other thing, and that's change the players.
We've all wanted a more robust team capable of digging in, to go with the ebb and flow of our attacking play. If that means getting rid of i) a left back who slips up more times than Frank Spencer, ii) A mecenary, clearly in it for himself and iii) a player who doesn't want to play for us....then fuck it, it's what we have to do.
As long as we use that money to replenish the squad with players who have bottle fight and leadership, I'm not too fussed tbh.
But as nothing the fuck has happened yet, I'll wait until it does.
Our rep is the least of your problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng
The ridiculous control panel on this forum which none of us have got to grips with yet, means we aren't making any name changes til Christmas.
On a serious note, if what is feared is true, I cannot see how shifting all our best players out will help us improve next season. In fact I think it will be an almighty challenge to hold on to 4th. Even if we buy in quality, there will be a significant bedding in period for those players and this is particularly so given the type of football Wenger has us play.
Well look what happened after the Invincibles...Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Fair enough to wait and see - not like we have much choice. But I'm looking at a current picture that's wider than the merits of individual players. It can't be denied that there is the smell of something a bit rotten about the club. One thing that you can always depend on - and that is that agents/press whores can smell weakness like sharks smell blood - and that's what's going on with us ATM.
We talk about replacing players and systems as though its like buying a new car - but building new teams is both a difficult and a painstaking process. There's no way that the guts can be ripped out of our team and we can bounce back next season like nothing's happened. It took Wenger 5 years to realise that project youth had failed. Its not like he's going to roar back with the Invincibles Mk 11, and the smart money says that any replacements will be 'project' players rather than EPL seasoned superstars.
So sure, we wait. But for me the prognosis is not the most promising one.
I'll leave panicking till after the transfer window is closed although if Nasri and Cesc BOTH go then we're in trouble if we don't get good replacements.
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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Tell you what. Why don't we just shit down all transfer threads on the forum until the end of the transfer window? That way noone needs to opine and speculate, and we can just make factual comments on real situations. In fact, hell - why not suspend all threads on our likely league position until the final day of next season?
Fing is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng
After the invincibles, we moved to a big new shiny stadium, and it was obvious, as we have discussed so many times before, that the board and Vinger decided on a strategy of youth and prudence. You've agreed with it in the past, and I still believe it was the right thing to do.
So, I'm slightly different in the view of "look at what happened after PV4 left" senario, in that I think our stance back then is a little different to our stance now.
I think we'll spend a shitload of cash this summer. I just have a gut feeling. I still think AW is a top manager, and that isn't a "Wenger knows" comment. It's that I think he is far more capable than we give him credit for.
We're all down in the dumps. And yes, our manager has a lot of questions to answer, and a lot of things to put right. But I think he's capable. And I think he knows where the end of the line was for Project Highbury Exodus.
You already are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng
:coffee:
And there's the rub. If Wenger has learned from the last 5 years and/or the money is now available to spend (and I think both are true) then losing Cesc and Nasri will not be a disaster. However, if we lose C&N and just get some 'promising players who will do well for us in a few years' then I will be well pissed off. I suspect we are going to be buying something a bit more solid though, given Gazidis' statements and Wenger's comments at the end of the last game. If not, any credibity they have with me will evaporate. Short of naming specific players, they have practically promised that things will be changed for next season and they had just better deliver. If not, Wenger will most certainly lose the supporters who still have belief in him and at the end of next year, the clamour for his head will be unstoppable.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG