Thoughts ?
Deal for £35m agreed
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Thoughts ?
Deal for £35m agreed
What a joke. Unless he's had talks if Conte about his role, development and has been assured that he's a major part of their plans, it's a foolish move. Good move to leave but this may be a step too far and he'll need to really play well from the get go.
He has more than enough talent to make a mark in chavland and under a proper coach he can only improve.
Still. Silver cloud. More lovely cash and only 4 more days to spin stories about signing Arsenio then the damnable window slams shut. The mood of the fans is at an all time record low and the anger at unprecedented levels so, I wonder, would it really make that much more difference if Alexis was flogged to the gypos? I think it's worth the risk and certainly worth the profit.
Bye.
Goodbye and good riddance.
Got given far too many chances here despite his overall brainless play.
Nice timing by Arsenal to agree this deal right after yesterday's thrashing. They really like rubbing salt into their own fans' wounds. :doh:
If we're going to sell why not get a replacement in before? Why not buy someone before the season starts so the new signing can bed in? We're being run by a bunch of morons.
Looking at the move from Ox's point of view I kind of agree with Delusions, it's a risky move for Ox if he wants playing time. I don't think he's too bothered by that though. He hasn't got anything to gain from sticking around Wenger.
9 goals in 7 years. Says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Life goes on and profits don't make themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
35m is pretty decent, I'm not sure how much better he is now than the day we signed him.
I would say good luck to him but seeing as it's Chelsea hopefully he flops. Always a trier though, just never managed to find a role for himself here which I don't think was entirely his fault.
See ya. :wave:
Does this mean our right back can go back to the right now? And our new left back can get a game?
http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/tr...irer-chelseas/
Closet Chelsea fan it seems!
Actually Wenger told me he plans to convert Lacazette to a right back, but he wont be starting games until May because he needs time to adjust to the premier league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Bellerin will permanently shift to left back until all his confidence breaks into pieces. But it's all for the bigger picture because we're trying to build his character up so we can sell him for a nice juicy profit in two years.
He's rubbish. Talented but there's nothing in the football brain merging those skills into a useful player.
The indulging of him in the last few games and it's direct contribution to the self-inflicted disastrous start to the season is possibly one of WUMger's biggest pratfalls. And we know that's an ever-expanding rap sheet. Just mind-blowingly inexplicable. Or not if you conclude Wenget has pressed the biggest, most impactful self-destruct button in history.
Wenger is a lier, yet again he makes himself look like a fool with stupid statements like "I believe the OX wants to stay he is someone who grew up here and will be one of the leaders of this club in the coming years" just a few days ago. Now he's being sold to a direct (bit optimistic if you ask me because both clubs have contrasting mentalities) rival.
That's the totally bizarre thing. If reports are true we knew last week he wouldn't be signing under any circumstance. So why did we start him ahead of Kolasinic. Should have been benched straight away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
So he's now off to Chelsea and he's rubbish, pull the other one, people have been raving about him in the past.
Personally think he's very talented and can go far but not under Wenger, the guy doesn't have a clue, what concerns me is we'll sell him and either not replace him or panic buy some nobody who not improve us and who we'll be lumbered with further down the line.
Sick of this rubbish club, all down to the owner and manager for me, the owner doesn't care at all we know that, but on top of that the manager has no pride, no desire to win, he's a professional loser getting paid a fortune to be 2nd rate, it's pretty clear he doesn't have a clue about management despite hs 10,000 subsitutions, most of his decisions are baffling and worse than amateur, there's just no explanation for his decisions or behaviour, totally dumbfounding.
Good for him, I urge all our young players to get the hell away from Wenger.
It's a good move for him, he will never be a world beater but make no mistake, this boy will improve under Conte and his structured system at Chelsea. The fee is irrelevant, even if we got 100million for him Wenger wouldn't invest it wisely.
I am completely done with this club, we are pathetic, a sad club with little to no ambition.
Good luck to him.
We're a complete shambles right now, and things will only get worse over the next two seasons. Even Wrighty is calling for Wumger to walk.
Resign Denilson and we are good to go
We should all be demanding that Wenger stay. Then he would leave immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
He is making his escape. Unreal how someone who wanted to leave, was played on Sunday in place of someone who wanted to stay. His performance was abject at best.
Arsenal, now on a par with Stoke and West Brom.
I think he is a good player just not a wing back and probably doesn't fit in our system whatever that system actually is meant to be.
not sure Ox will get much more of a game at the Chavs though - think Liverpool would have been a better option for him although don't think they bid in end.
anyone think Andros Townsend is available for £27m so we can make a bit of profit there.
True. But we could make even more profit if we almost sign somebody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumble
true it is all about who we almost signed that's matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It could go either way. Unlike other players he hasn't left us after having a groundbreaking season like RvP, Cesc, Adebayor, Nasri. He still hasn't got an end product or even a best position on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
This time last year most gooners would have been glad to see the back of Ox. It was only partway through last season that he started to finally show the promise that we hoped he would. Jury's still out on him and unless he adds an end product to his game and breaks through his injury barrier, he is no big loss. I rate him but I hope he flops miserably just because he joined Chelsea.
Bit harsh on West BromQuote:
Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72
Ox has rejected the offer from Chelsea and wants to move to Liverpool.
Looks like we could be stuck with him if Liverpool don't stump up the cash.
Aye, that is true. I think there is talent in there with him though and I don't think Wenger is capable of getting it out of him on a consistent basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
It seems he wants to move to Liverpool, he has turned the Chavs down which is quite amusing TBF!
I just want rid of him now, don't care where he goes.
More respect for him if he's actually putting his career first and thinking about his development. He should find a club that wants to develop him as a central midfielder.
He strikes me as the kind of hard working player that would buy into Klopp's philosophy as well. Not sure about him being a CM but it's a much better move for him.
Totally agree, it's clearly not about the money, he wants to play and he wants to play in his preferred role. Really though we've screwed ourselves over, we should have finalised negotiations early in the summer and if he didn't want to sign sell him then. Now we might be end up losing him for nothing next summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Liverpool makes more sense for Ox.
I think a lot of people are judging our players by Wenger's pathetically lowly standards. Ox will rip it up once he's playing for a decent coach who can train a little bit of game sense into him. He needs structure and Klopp will give that to him in spades, without depriving him of his flair.
That's why Wenger has held onto Theo all this time. He fears how dangerous Theo could be if coached by somebody who wasn't a complete fucking moron.
Does this mean Lemar to Liverpool is dead, or are they going for both?
By the sounds of things we want Lemar, and Oxlade is our backup.
Based on not very much at all, I think Oxlade is more likely than Lemar given Monaco seemingly don't want to sell at all and Oxlade, despite having only a year left, is half the price and hopefully will accept less in wages if he's so insistent in joining us.
Lemar to Barca is the latest rumour.
Interesting triangle.
Considering the bullshit we saw against Liverpool, why hasn't Ox been given a proper run in the midfield? If that's what he is holding out for why not give him that chance before getting to this situation?
You know Wenger, he likes to stick to something regardless of the outcome, Xhaka seems to be the problem at the moment Wenger is insisting on playing despite his very underwhelming displays since he arrived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
He's not the answer IMO, I'd have got rid and signe someone else or given Ox a chance personally.
He got his chance last season and he played quite well. So obviously Wenger dropped him. Wenger often tries to identify a player's best position so he can go on to play him elsewhere. I think he does this, possibly, because he's a complete fucking crackpot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Again, credit to Ox if he pursues this path and gets his way. Sticking to his guns (excuse the pun) and rejecting contracts from us and Chelsea, a reported £220k, shows that he is serious about playing through the middle and developing as a player. Why on earth would Wenger think shifting further into a RWB role or even LWB would appease him? How stupid is he?
Ox is from a footballing family. His uncle and father played ball so I'm sure there are enough advisors around. Wenger must have known that too considering he builds close ties with families when signing kids. Seeing how serious he is about playing through the middle, it makes no sense to unbalance the squad by playing him out of position and not showing flexibility in an area we're really struggling in.
Always been against the square legs in round holes thing because this is what it results in. Players end up leaving and we just unbalance the squad for nothing.
Also, Wenger never learns when it comes to leaving it late in the day to offer a player a new contract. I'm convinced he's losing his memory. Theo went through the same and warned Wenger not to take him for granted and assume he'll sign anything in front of him. The club handle these situations so poorly and we were always going to arrive at this point. It's the final wake up call now.. With the team crumbling again, people now must see we're managed by an idiot.