Iwobi,ospina, wheelchair can fuck off really.
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Iwobi,ospina, wheelchair can fuck off really.
If we play without a CM midfield against Chelsea it's going to get ugly.
Clueless play from Iwobi & Elneny tonight .... gave zero options to the defence to pass the ball to and it ultimately just invited pressure. Ultimately the blame has to go to Wenger though.
Wonderful
They are bottom of the German league and we will have much tougher tests.
Good goals and Kolasinac is showing again what a huge player he can be for us.
Chelsea will be a different animal though and we will have to turn up and not bend over and take it up the arse like we have done recently at Stamford bridge.
Just watching the highlights now. Really professional performance, always difficult to get 3 points away in Europe.
We were at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
What did he do wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks
You may be overlooking the sarcasm intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Static
It isn't as apparent for non regulars, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
A fairly obvious joke to be made tbh. :lol:
:gp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Static
MO :doh:
Ahem.
Anyway. Didn't see it although saw we were 1-0 and thought :doh:
Pleased we won. Bigger tests to come, obviously, but job done for now.
First half was terrible, the typical lack of midfield control
Our attacking play from wide areas improved in the second half
Lot of long balls I noticed. Looked a lot more cohesive when Wilshere replaced Iwobi
Have seen people on here defend Ospina as being a decent keeper????
What will it take to convince you otherwise
Key word being decent. Every 2nd string keeper will have that sort of error in them especially when only getting a few games here or there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
A manager that decides to play Iwobi as a CM either doesn't know his own players strengths and weaknesses or totally disregards or underestimates the discipline for that role. I'm going with the latter because the CM position has been a blind spot for Wenger for a long time now.
Have you ever watched him play for Colombia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Maybe our definition of decent is divergent. My definition is a bit higher than that of a keeper who at least 50% of the goals they concede are either their fault or you think a better keeper would have saved.
Decision making poor, distribution suspect and too short.
Should have kept Szczesny instead and had him understudy Cech.
Ospina is an excellent shot stopper, and shit at everything else. Always been that way.
No dispute on keeping Sir Ches. Should never have sold him. I don’t watch International football unless a major tournament that. But from what I’ve seen of Ospina, I’ve seen flaws that have cost us but games where he’s saved our bacon. Our 2nd keeper ‘issue’ is a drop in the ocean compared to the other stuff going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
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Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
Well just because he's not right at the top of the hierarchy of things that are fucked up with the club. Doesn't make it any less baffling that we have kept him, rather than have a back up keeper who could potentially replace an ageing Cech.
So is anything happening about the away supporters? I don't know all the details but from the bits I've heard well, I suspect if English fans had acted like that abroad they'd have thrown the book at us.
Do you think Sir Ches couldn't have made a similar sort of mistake?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
A handful of sporadic games can't determine whether we have a good replacement for Cech. Is this even worth debating?
Didn't watch it but it's a win against what is a pretty rubbish team, so nothing to get too excited about, we'll definitely face much better sides than them.
Our group is pretty easy to be honest, we should stroll through it.
Media sensationalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Real story is somebody sold a whole bunch of home tickets to away supporters. A lot. So a ton of Germans ended up in the home sections, which is pretty lucky for the club because when you looked at the home sections in general there were many. many empty seats. Seems that Arsenal fans stayed away in droves last night.
Meanwhile, two Jerries kicked over some railings, about 4 sour Krauts hit stewards with their handbags and a few pissed in the street. Otherwise, considering there was 20 thousand of them, there was nothing much untoward beyond extremely noisy and enthusiastic support.
Daily Mail has "Anarchy at Arsenal" sprawled across the back page :haha:
No anarchy, in fact considering so many away fans got into the home sections, somebody, somewhere behind the scenes did a good job of getting the game kicked off. Must have been an older, less hysterical figure who detected the fact we were dealing with a ton of loud Germans looking to take over the place - been there, seen it, dealt with it before. The Emirates Expects!
They've thrown the book at us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
:lol: That'll show us!
Well done to the idiots who sold their tickets to the away fans.
Arsenal charged with
• Stairways blocked in away supporters sector
Umm. Were they blocked with away fans?
Tbf if you put something on Ticket Exchange you don't know who it goes to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Fuck that. They should continue to do it and not go to the game. Then Wenger can really talk about a 'hostile environment'. :lol: Let's see if they continue throw up those attendance numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
True but you have to be a member for that. Plus, to have been eligible to get tickets for this game you had to be a member before the group stage draw was made. So obviously Cologne fans could not have bought bogus Red memberships.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
My guess is that the game was on friends and family sale which meant paper tickets that could easily have been coined in by our fans.
I think a lot of the messages of panic came from people pooing themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Even the violent Cologne fans were only smacking each other about, and even then probably for a laugh.
I'd rather some of them had behaved a bit better. Or at least a German shepherd had sunk it's teeth into those who were a bit naughty.
But yeah I have to agree....seems like a mountain being made out of a mole hill. Five or six arrests from 20,000?. Not a lot really.
But then I suppose it's alien for us to come across supporters who are actually passionate and haven't been priced out
They love their football in Cologne, even though Helmut Kohl was chancellor last time they were in Europe.
I hope the actual dick heads got a good hiding but as for the rest.....fair play to them.
That would have been ironic :dQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Ospina played his 50th game for Arsenal last night. If I was so minded, I could pick out a plethora of occasions during those 50 games where he fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
But the option is clear for you, if you don't think it's worth debating. Feel free not to.
Far too much atmosphere for the Emirates faithful. All they wanted was to eat their caviar and browse on their iPads in peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Uefa charging Arsenal for blocking stairways in the away section? Wtf?
Knock yourself out. Pull up the last time he's played more than handful of games and had a real run in the team? Say 10 games or so back to back and see what you find. It's hard to judge form off a handful of performances or one off cup games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Times like this where I think you are being argumentative for the sake of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delusions of Grandeur
From February to May 2015 he was essentially our no1 and made a multitude of fuck ups. Was responsible for both goals when Harry Kane scored twice and Spurs won 2-1. Constant terrible distribution gave Spurs posession and put us back under pressure without a respite.
Managed to get lobbed by Gareth McAuley West Broms goal in the final game of that season
Let the ball squirm in from Bafetembi Gomis when we were beaten by Swansea
Was incredibly lucky not to give away a penalty or get sent off when he cleaned out Oscar in the 0-0 draw against Chelsea
Over committed himself and was beaten too easily for Monacos third goal at the Emirates
And that's just off the top of my head.
But of course it's just lack of games that makes the guy a complete clown
I wouldn't mind if it was just the odd mishap here and there, but every game when he plays he manages to fuck up, that can't be all be put down to ring rustiness. I love how people go on about how well he played in Paris last season.
Really???
He produced a lot of saves but a great number of those goal scoring situations had been presented to PSG by him. There was one time he manages to throw the ball out directly to Cavani.
Like NQ said he's a good shot stopper (and even that is questionable some time) but is shit at everything else.
They scored a quality goal which I think was a bit of a fluke after watching the striker attempt other things like crossing etc later in the game.
We scored 2 good goals. Walcott enjoyed being offside and fumbling around but least he seemed to make effort. Anyway its our first win on the way to Europa league glory. This is our best chance of the Champions League return we all crave.
Just challenging you to do some research and think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
From January 2015 to May 2015 Ospina had a run in the team.
He played 18 league games.
Lost 2 games (Spurs 2-1) and (Swansea 0-1),
Drew 3 games (Utd 1-1, Chelsea 0-0, Sunderland 0-0)
Won the rest and picked up 8 clean sheets in the process. Clean sheets against difficult teams like Stoke, City, Everton, West Ham and Chelsea.
With our record and the sort of horror shows we've seen, that's not bad for a 2nd string keeper. It's not as if Cech hasn't conceded a shit load of goals and been caught out on many occasions.
As said, when he was given a long run of games, he was ok for a 2nd stringer. It's rare to see a 2nd string keeper play a blinder after long periods on the bench. Unless he's playing us of course. ;)