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Stupid sport anyway.
The fans clearing out en masse is the most embarrassing thing about today.
Guendouzi was the high point for me.
Just have to hope Emery doesn't have blind spots for players that continuously let the team down like WUMger did.
Cech, Xhaka, Ozil and a goal-hanging Ramsey can't be given half a season to play their way out of the team. None of them are young or even relatively new to the club or league.
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Lichtsteiner and Lacazette both played well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goonermerree
Lichtseiner is an amazing scrote too.
Douzi is young and needs to learn his craft and did OK. I've seen Laca roastng shots over the bar before, the other guy is in the final throws of his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Pretty good isn't he. Held his own against City.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goonermerree
#EmeryOut
#WengerIn
#BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor
#LettersWozRight
Meh. Didn’t see it but you need to win games like this to be title contenders, I think we all knew we wouldn’t be this season.
I like him and he moves with urgency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power n Glory
I thought Guendozy was shit, he looked weak and slow.
Did Ozil play ?
Lichtsteiner did quite well I thought, its going to be a long season but they won't have to play the best team in the country every week.
Until Ozil and shocker (Xhaka) leave Arsenal, there are going to be many lost games.
If we're still in 15th spot by Christmas it will be Emery out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Early days, playing the Champions, we have to give Emery a chance and see how we do against, well, other teams.
He was terrible, it looked like a small, weak child, playing against men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power n Glory
Well he's 19 so that wouldn't be inaccurate. He made many mistakes but didn't stop demanding the ball at any point which is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
Welcome to the new Arsenal, very similar to the old Arsenal. Weak in defence, unsure in midfield and clueless up front. Cech, Xhaka, Ramsey, Ozil. Must get out of the team for us to make any headway. Surely the manager must soon realise this?
Agreed. Seeing the starting line up, the game played out how I expected. We discussed the problem with Xhaka, Ramsey and Ozil before the season kicked off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
If Emery wouldn't have played Douzi and went for the trio, we'd have been overrun completely.
I think he played with confidence and looked to take responsibility., more than some of our other players.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
But to not play Torreira after his World Cup performances was criminal and i for one can't believe he made that choice when it was so obvious we've been crying out for just that player to shore us up defensivelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Goonermerree
You've said some bullshit about Monreal nit being good enough so fuck your opinion. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
We'll have to see how he and Torreira get on. Xhaka or Ramsey is a no for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goonermerree
True, let's hope he's learned a lot today Pre-season friendly's are not the same as competitive matches, he may need to rethink a few things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
We will see how good Monreal is when he plays at left back, he is slow, very slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power n Glory
You probably thought that Guendozy was good today and that Monreal is the Premier Leagues quickest player.
Some people are fucking clueless and cannot see the blatantly obvious.
Who genuinely thought that Guendozy played well today ?Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
He was terrible along with Ozil and Xhaka.
Cech played well and kept Arsenal in it, Ramsey is average as usual.
Emery has a lot to learn but it was his first real match.
Did Xhaka get an extension on his contract in the Summer? If so, wtf!Quote:
Originally Posted by Power n Glory
Lets hope Dick Emery sorts out the dead wood in January.
Xhaka, Mustafi, Ozil etc.
Dick Emery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
LOL
Send him a few tips on email. He's the amateur here after allQuote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
I was expecting us to win, but when I saw the lineup I knew we'd lose, that was poor by Emery IMO.
Mustafi, Xhaka and Cech and not starting Lacazette was wrong IMO. I was disappointed with the performance today, didn't play for the new manager at all, IMO there's no hope for many of these Wenger players, to set in their ways and too much in the comfort zone, it's what worried me about our summers dealings, not enough faces out of the door and not enough quality brought in.
Clearly Emery is hamstrung by the club not backing him fully, but the team selection today is on him, Torreira, Lacazette and Leno should have played, not playing a keeper you paid 20 million for is just bizarre.
Anyway onward and upwards, hopefuly he learns hs lesson and realises these Wenger players are losers and that he need to drop them like a stone, giving Xhaka and Chambers new contracts was also bizarre, they should have been sold IMO, but again don't think that was down to Emery.
Guendouzi has potential but I don't think he's ready to be a regular starter too raw. Truth is this season is going to be a difficult one, what I want to see is Emery building a team in his image and phasing out the Wenger way and players.
Today however we were totally outclassed by a team who are very very good and have an amazing squad, had they put their chances it could (and perhaps should have been) a cricket score.
Anyway got to give Emery a chance and as long as he shows he's willing to make the right changes and not back players who are plainly not good enough I'll be happy enough.
I expected us to lose but I thought we'd at least go down with a fight and show some balls. I supposed that's too much for Arsenal fans to ask for now.
The usual suspects. Xhaka is a liability, if there's one player to point the finger at for the goals we conceded it's him. He also lost the ball more than once in dangerous positions which City failed to take advantage of. He has no business even being on the bench. He's not good enough.
Ozil, Ramsey, Mkhi, Bellerin all shite. No chance of getting top four with 50% of our XI giving us half arsed performances like that.
Cech was good at the actual goalkeeping. He made some good saves, especially that Aguero one on one. But if Emery insists on the keeper playing the ball out it won't work. Either you let Cech go with his instincts and smash the ball as far away from his goal as possible, or you go with Leno who I assume knows how to play the ball out safely. One or the other.
It'll be interesting to see how Emery responds. Will he drop Xhaka? Will he change the formation? Will he give this bunch of pussies the hairdryer treatment?
Yea really odd decision, the guy is a waste of space.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
Being a keeper is more than making saves though, Cech can't save penalties for toffee, can't distribute the ball at all and is prone to errors, almost kicked the ball into his own net today when under no pressure, ended up giving away a corner. I just find this club odd, why would you sign a keeper for 20 million who is 26 and then not make him number 1, that's just unheard of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
I just need his email address.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMatthews
Do you have it ?
What a bold faced lie! You didn't expect us to win. You said you had no expectations for the game or season. A draw at best! :lol: Stop lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
I agree with a lot of that especially the bit about Guendozy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
The bit I don't agree with is the tiny bit at the start, about expecting to win.
I would never expect Arsenal to beat Man City ever again.
Unless this season is a complete car crash and we end up in mid table he pretty much has a free pass this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goonermerree
We were a million miles away from title contenders last season, even allowing for City’s insane form, so expecting a title challenge this year is unrealistic. What I am expecting is improvement and a push for top 4. I don’t think a defeat today tells us anything we didn’t know. As is traditional I didn’t see the game so can’t sensibly comment on how we played. As always though I would argue against over-reacting to what is, after all, Emery’s first ever competitive game.
I meant wasn't, chill out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power n Glory
My post was tongue-in-cheek, but we weren't any better in this match than we were in the last few years/ matches. Emery needs to be given time thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I thought you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
No sorry meant to say wasn't expecting us to win, always thought at best we'd get a draw or lose (leaning towards the latter).Quote:
Originally Posted by dostoy
What I wanted to see was a new style of play, some hunger and some change basically (and a different lineup), disappointed I didn't.
No one honestly expected us to be title challengers but we've all had enough of these weak, gutless performances. Emery has some serious decisions to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters