Lost home and away to Brighton.
Some fucking ridiculous subs and again absolute bobbins to watch.
Pepe did something good then got hooked soon after.
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Lost home and away to Brighton.
Some fucking ridiculous subs and again absolute bobbins to watch.
Pepe did something good then got hooked soon after.
Same old shit.
There isn’t a single team in this league we can be confident of beating. Arteta is getting nothing from these players, not a good sign at all.
Can this joke of a season end now please.
Why we still have Aubameyang out on the left is beyond me, then again why Martinelli is getting the shoulder is too bewildering also.
Bringing on Nketiah, Nelson and Willock with sod all time left to do anything.
A total mess. Three months to think of this. :lol:
Come on, Pandemic :scarf:
Fuck off, Arsenal.
We got a goal, so that is progress.
I thought new coaches were meant to provide a bit of a bounce. Even Emery managed to make the team click for a short while at least.
Arteta, as far as I can see doesn’t have a fucking clue thus far.
Oh yeah I forgot, no Ozil again. :lol:
The club is falling apart at every level.
I didn't watch it, I was geniunely surprised we didn't lose though, thought this one was going to be a defeat.
i dont understand the obsession with Auba`s position. He isnt chained to the left. Saka switched positions with him several times. Auba is no Henry. He is not even Alexis Sanchez. He will not be the game changer at Arsenal and he never was at any team before Arsenal. We need him and all the other wasters out of here and let Martinelli play there. We are shit with or without Auba so why spend another 300kpw on a player who cant win a game single handedly for us. We need to move on with this obsession with a players starting position.
Looking at the remaining fixtures, we will do well to reach 50 points.
Are you trolling us now?Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
If Auba has any sense he will leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Ozil gets paid just under 1.5 million a month to either sit at home or sit on the bench. It's absolutely crazy.
Honestly thought it ended 1-1, loooolQuote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
I went on bbc site a few mins from the end it seems. Oh well, draw or loss....neither here nor there, season was done months ago.
Denial :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Results were ok before the enforced break, but he is getting increasingly hard to defend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We are a properly mid-table side now and I’m not quite sure how that has happened.
Selassie is in a time warp. :rose:Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
It does sound better there tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
An alternate timeline where Arsenal don’t lose every game they play :cloud9:
There isn’t a single ounce of chemistry or guile in this team at all. It’s a compete ramshackle outfit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
The worst Arsenal team for a generation without a doubt. I can’t identify with anything I see on the pitch anymore because it’s so far removed from everything Arsenal has stood for in the past.
I couldn’t tell you with any confidence where our next win is coming from.
Yeah Wenger Out!
I wanted him out but now wish he had never gone. Please Please somebody who cares but out Kroenke.
“Anyone would be better than Wenger.”Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
:whistle:
We are yet to employ Mr Anyone. He would certainly be better than that has-been who couldnt find another job in real football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Basically agree with all that. What I don’t understand is how we got here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Some will inevitably blame Wenger and while this is still largely his squad, in his last season we finished 6th.
Not sparkling but that was Wenger’s worst season (not bad for a manager who had been with us that long, IMO) and it was generally felt that a new manager would get more out of them.
Emery didn’t hugely improve things but we still got 70 points and got to the Europa League final so I call bullshit on Wenger leaving us with this terrible squad. This year has been a complete car crash. We are now a proper mid table side in a way we never were under Wenger and we weren’t in Emery’s first season.
How did we get here?
This is the worst Arsenal side since the mid-90s and even then they had a bit of fight about them and could raise it enough for the odd cup game to win a few trophies.
Cannot see how we dig ourselves out of this hole, Auba would be mad to stay and without him we are mid table through and through. We had to move on from Wenger and I never bought into the idea that any idiot would be an improvement but I’m somewhat baffled at how we’ve ended up this much worse. We haven’t exactly been frugal in the transfer market.
Last I heard he had a pretty senior job at FIFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
But yeah, it’s odd how a 70 year old isn’t top of the list for clubs seeking a manager.
If he'd gone sooner i think we'd have got a better managerQuote:
Originally Posted by rodders
And i'll say it again I blame Raul more than the Kroenkes, though they are at fault for letting a c**t like him destroy the club, they don't get it yet, but i hope they wake up soon
Auba's not a 'waster' - he's scored 17 goals this season. Without him we'd be in the bottom three probably. He did ok today but there's no strategy to make the best of him, each player just runs around doing their own thing, that's Arteta's faultQuote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Auba would score 40 goals a season if he played for City or Liverpool. The fact he’s managed to score the amount he has in our dysfunctional team shows what a gem he is.
He’ll leave on a free, we’ll miss out on millions as usual and once again struggle to rebuild.
Ozil will still be here though, gracing us with an appearance once in a while.
Do you mean that in the sense that other managers (like Klopp, say) were available but we missed the boat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Or do you mean that had we still been in the CL we’d have been able to attract a better class of manager?
Disagree with the latter if that’s what you mean. Throw enough money at someone and I don’t think that would have been much of a factor.
Emery was better than him ;) :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Well. His first season was marginally better.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
But then this season it all went to shit :(
Same shit players we had before the break, so it's not a surprise nothing has changed after it.
Right, but these “shit players” finished 5th last season with 70 points and got to the Europa League final. Not a patch on the top 2 but pretty much as good as anyone else.
How has it all gone quite so wrong this year?
Performances were still a bit duff last year but Auba and Laca bailed us out a lot. It’s the attack that’s gone to shit this year. Auba has no support, if he doesn’t score we’re hugely unlikely to win a match. Points to how dysfunctional the set up of the team is.
Only 41 goals from 30 games so far.
Last year we scored 73. So 32 goals shy of that with 8 games to play. :lol:
Lacazette has sadly been a complete waste of space this season. He has no business in the team and certainly should not be keeping Martinelli out.
Yes, more the first reason than the second but i don't entirely discount the second eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I do agree with you Letters, I know its rare!Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Wenger had past his sell by date with us and should have gone no matter what, but i agree we have regressed since he has gone.
Yep totally agree Mac, a few seasons before Wenger left there was a lot of top quality managers available. We made a real mess of the Wenger out situation, but it's what we do, we are Arsenal!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
The football has been getting worse, year on year. Slow, plodding, sideways, backwards. Don't know what the last 2 games have been like, but I'd lay money on it being the same old story. The players always take the easy option. When they can move the play on, they instead reset and slow everything down. Constant prodding and probing but at 1mph so no threat is actually posed. It's a boring style and an ineffective one that Wenger perfected and first Emery, now Arteta can't shake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
We went from playing like Arsenal, dynamic, fast, ambitious, to trying to play like Barca. But without the hundreds of millions of investment required to pull that off. So instead we just became this one paced, tip tap shit machine that's pretty much unwatchable and utterly ineffective.
We're also playing in a shit league brimming with mediocre players. The modern PL is packed with turds who can't pass, can't cross, can't shoot, with the few notable exceptions. So depending on how shit everyone is around us dictates where we'll finish. We're a million miles behind Liverpool and the gypos, but in the vicinity of shit heaps like the spuds and Utd. This season, maybe a little worse, unbelievably trying to hang on to absolute pub outfits like Wolves and Sheff Utd. But at least teams like that will fight with the limited resources they have. Our lot won't. Too pampered. Let away with it in a terrible culture that rewards mediocrity with stupid money.
We've settled for second best in every aspect for well over a decade now and that causes rot. As I have said for years, I wouldn't mind so much if the football was worth watching. But it's unbearably awful. There's no enjoyment, just pure frustration.
Football in general is swirling around the rim, but we're pulling the flush at Arsenal.
Yep agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Sad thing is, Emery could have been a hero last season, he absolutely blew it and that was IMO the start of this sad downward spiral we find ourselves in. IIRC, we were 3rd and a couple of points clear of 5th place last season with 5 games to go and que the COLLAPSE.
We now find ourselves in arguably a much worse position than we were prior to Wenger leaving.
We have a squad full of players with little to no resale value, we have no spine outside of Leno & Auba, we by the sounds of it don't have the budget required to rebuild in the way we need to. TBH, whilst Kroenke is a leech, he has actually invested a fair bit of money into the football side over the past few years, problem is Wenger and then Emery have both made bad moves in the market. In the case of Emery, he managed to actually make our defence worse and that is some feat, still scratching my head on how he managed this. He spent money in the process too, it's actually quite funny! :haha:
Midfield is a complete mess too, I wouldn't batter an eyelid if everyone of our midfielders was sold, same with the defence too with the exception of Tierney & Saliba.