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I hope we win. I suppose.
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I hope we win. I suppose.
Good Kiwi win over Norway
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Originally Posted by Letters
I could be content in not caring about women’s football and leaving it at that. But it won’t upset the usual suspects if I don’t. I am curious at how the level of lesbianism in the sport relative to society is exponentially higher (and that’s without factoring in countries like Zambia, Nigeria and China where you simply can’t be open about your sexuality). Of course it’s not just football, it’s other sports like Hockey as well so probably less about women taking on more masculine roles.
No where near as high in Tennis, so could be a difference between individual and team sports
Well. I didn't think this thread was going to go in that direction :lol:
I care up to a point. And that point is "I hope England win". And I'd go so far to say I'll probably watch England in the later stages if we get there. But I don't really care. And I find it tiresome how it's increasingly wrongthink if you don't care about it as much as the men's game and believe them to be equivalent.
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Originally Posted by Letters
Ultimately other people’s attitudes don’t bother me, I just like getting a reaction out of them. My attitude is clearly the women’s game has evolved from where it was twenty years ago. And in that England-Germany final a year ago or whenever it was, obviously wanted England to win but at 39 I’m not interested in watching new sports. And in my mind womens football feels like one day cricket or 20/20…just an inferior form of the game
It's come on a fair bit but the standards are still really low. Goalkeeping is particularly poor. Not sure why.
I just don't care about it much, really.
If I had to guess, apparently there is not just a difference in strength and speed on average between men and women but hand-eye coordination as well…which might well account for poor goalkeeping unless the issue is that they aren’t good at ball to feet (don’t watch so don’t know)Quote:
Originally Posted by GP
I actually think the standard is pretty good, and the interest level has certainly increased a lot since the Euros, the women's NLD got a very big attendance at The Emirates.
But yeah, I don't really care that much. I'll be pleased if we win of course.
Internationally the women's game is probably getting towards Championship level or certainly League 1
I actually quite lile watching it, there's less cheating, it's a little slower so can be easier to follow and there are sometimes good skills on show and some good goals.
Not that I'll be watching it much because of timings but hope the Lionesses do well
not sure what your point is but that was a horrendous foul for the sending off - btw i didn't know they had the refs directly announcing their decision to the crowd - i wonder if that might improve things if the ref had to actually say in front of 60,000 fans that they'd denied us yet another blindingly obvious pel ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
Ooft! :sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
Interesting the refs are miked up. I approve.
Aye. Timings a big issue with this WC for us in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
That was my point :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
I'm not sure about the announcements, honestly. Might help to have the refs mic'd up like in rugby so we can hear them talking the decision over with the VAR but I'm not sure what this achieves, other than maybe accessibility (blind/visually impaired fans).
Well the rugby thing only works for people watching on TV whereas the announcements are for people at the game tooQuote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
I think at rugby you can buy a set of headphones that gives you access to the ref's mic, though I don't know how widespread that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Honestly even if it's just for TV, it would help to know what the decision making process is.
USA beat Vietnam.
Took a few years but they finally got it done.
If it's not pole vaulting I have no interest in women's sport
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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
England 1-0 at HT vs Haiti. Pel. Had to be retaken after the first one was saved but the ‘keeper was off her lane.
https://youtu.be/S06nIz4scvIQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
1-0 FT. Watched the 2nd half. Pretty poor quality.
If we can only scrape past Haiti that doesn't sound good - unless Haiti are some kind of mega-force in womens' football?
I don’t think they are. But teams can play their way in to tournaments.
We’ll get out of the group, after that who knows.
Add joke about a “semi” here.
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Originally Posted by Letters
If you go by the men’s tournament (which probably shouldn’t) rarely is the side that starts the strongest the side that wins. Germany beating Portugal 4-0 in Brazil and France beating South Africa was the last time I remember an eventual World Cup winner starting with a real hammering.
Argentina and Spain lost their opening game before they won the tournament. France in 2018, Brazil in 2002 and Italy in 2006 all recorded rather modest opening wins.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think England will win either, no idea who…other than potentially defaulting to the USA
USA does seem likely.
I thought we had a decent chance but I heard that some of the ladies who won the Euros have since retired so maybe not.
retired or with bad injuriesQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Friend of mine who is into the sport said something about the goalkeeper being one of the only players left from the starting XI at the Euros.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
She knows the names of the Arsenal ladies players better than I do, even corrected me on the Pronounciation of Miedema (which sounds like a medical term for a brain injury)
Katie McCabe straight from a corner! :lol:
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Originally Posted by WMUG
Someone was saying something about women's goalkeeping...
:lol: that's a real howlerQuote:
Originally Posted by GP
A mate has opined that the goals should be smaller in the women's game. Not entirely sure I agree but while there are tall women, the average is clearly different.
That woman looks tiny in that goal, compare and contrast with people like Seaman who always looked massive and like it would be damn near impossible to score past.
interesting point, hadn't thought of that - though i guess you could argue the current siuation means you're likely to get more goalsQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
That's something that gets bandied around every now and then and the arguments that always come up against it are:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
a) Accessibility - at grassroots level you'd need two sets of goals or pitches with goals of different sizes which would take shitloads of time and money to implement, and at pro-level you'd need to keep switching the goals out which, for teams that share their grounds with lower-level clubs (us with Borehamwood, Spurs with Orient etc) that's an expense they could do without.
b) Men are much, much taller now on average than they were when the current goal size was standardised, and it obviously wasn't considered it a problem then or they'd have made them smaller. Sure, there's a difference between the men's game and the women's game in how big the keeper is compared to the goal, but does that really matter? The women's game is its own thing, it doesn't have to be defined in comparison to anything else.
You know, those are two very good arguments.
I think we probably should just accept that the women’s game is different to the men’s.
Which is pretty much what I’ve been saying all along anyway.
That's a pretty sexist thing to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
yeah i thought about the practical issues of switching goalposts too and as you say they don't have to be exactly comparableQuote:
Originally Posted by WMUG
Saw a clip of Nigerian equaliser against Australia. Jesus people aren’t kidding when they say the goalkeepers are rubbish are they
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Literally….anyone who says women should be on equivalent wages to men should be shown the “highlights” of the Aussie keeper
Yes. Embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
But you know what. I don't care how shit they are. The players in the men's game get the big bucks because of the insane amount of money which goes into the game, not because they're so much better than previous generations - mostly they're not.
When the women's game is getting multi-billion pound TV deals, huge sponsorship deals and getting 60,000 people paying £50-100 to watch, plus all the corporate stuff, then I don't care how crap they are, the women can get paid the big bucks too. But none of that is happening.