Drags us kicking and screaming into Europe with 2 goals, whilst being clearly out of form.
Impressive for someone without a footballing brain...
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Drags us kicking and screaming into Europe with 2 goals, whilst being clearly out of form.
Impressive for someone without a footballing brain...
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Should be counted as a striker now tbh.
Thought he was sh*t other than the goal :coffee:
Some good touches but ineffective apart from the goal. That said what more can you really ask for.
Was impressed with some of his play, looked better than last week. Assume Wenger put them up to it but liked Gervinho and Walcott swapping flanks, caused them a few problems.
Winning whilst playing badly...Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Said it before but he either does something quality in a game or nothing at all.
There is no middle ground of consistency with him. You won't see him turning fullbacks inside out, spraying passes over the pitch etc...IMO he is a limited player but if played to his strengths he can be an incredible asset as we saw tonight. There is nothing more effective than raw pace and despite having a fairly quiet game (as usual) it only takes a second for him to find space and off he goes into the sunset.
Good finisher as well, I always have complete faith in him when he's bearing down on goal.
Yep, his finishing is excellent. It's a real shame that some can't admit they were wrong about him. He's a real threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Bearing down on goal when he has time yes, but when in front of goal no.....today he missed that easy chance in the 1st half which he should have put away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He's a frustrating player 'cos he does have some ability but he's not as consistent as one would hope.
He took his goal well today but overall he wasn't that great. He is capable of really adding something to us though so I hope he can stay injury free this year and become the player I think he can be for us.
If Wenger keeps getting him to swap flanks with Gervinho we'll see more of that.
See how he took his goal? If that would have happened down the right, he'd probably been forced down the corner flag side and pushed wide to make a cross. When he's on the left he's breaking for goal and looks sure of scoring. That's how Henry used to do it.
I hope Wenger sees some sense and keeps playing him out on the left if he's not going to play a 4-4-2. He looked dangerous all night and they were worried about his pace and runs. Looked more dangerous than RVP. Judge him as a striker and you wouldn't say he was ineffective besides the goal.
Needs to learn how to shoot from outside the box as well. The 3-4 shots he had might as well have been passes to the GK, more power required.
Work on his finishing a bit and he could easily get 20~ goals a season for us (in all comps)
People just can't accept the type of player he is... Yes, he has an annoying habbit of forgetting the ball when he runs. Yes, some of his shooting was poor today, (by poor, 100% on target) And no, he shouldn't play down the middle.
HOWEVER, as a tactical assest his so valuble. Pushed Unidese's back line to there penalty box. No other player we have atm does that. It allows us to either go end to end or dominate possession. When teams refuse to do that, he smacks the shit out of there high line - it's fucking awesome.
He scores and assists enough from the wings, and no one else really covers enough ground to provide a goal threat and provide cover to full backs the days we need too.
Do I wish he can do step overs and spray passes like david beckham? Not really... concentrate on what you do best, as everyone else in the EPL keeps on telling us, there's more to football than Wengerball.
Top scorer for the Arsenal so far this season.
So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
one for Letters there.
Very good player. Only real problem he's had is staying fit. Football wise he's fine. Sure he has weaknesses but the good far outweighs the bad and I'm glad we have him.
Letters has scored more than Arsenal have this season tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
Letters :bow: :bow:
just like the first leg eh...Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Needs to be played as a striker.
No like yesterday when we were 1-0 down :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Yes, 'cos every other striker has a 100% record.
Theo needs to get more consistent but there are some promising signs.
Play him in the middle agaisnt the mancs he will have Smalling and jones nervous with his pace.
Not seen Jones and especially Smalling play? They're pretty good at dealing with pace because they have it in abundance themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
What do you make of RVP? Scored yesterday, but against Liverpool Arshy set him up with a good chance and he couldn't finish it. Was pretty anonymous throughout that game as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Nothing against RVP, I don't think his head is right at the moment, but he screws up as well. We had that fast break situation for a third goal yesterday and he hit it straight at the keeper. It happens with all strikers.
Yep - Thierry Henry would get a chance once every 3 minutes and put it in the net every time if some of the posters on here are to be believed. The invincibles never put a single foot wrong or conceded a single goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
ah so take one into consideration and ignore the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
RVP scuffed his shot a bit and hit it straight at Pepe. If he had put his boot thru the ball he would have scored. Against Pool he was drooping deep to get the ball. Last night he was playing more like a striker. It'll be a similar thing at Utd on Sunday where he will have to looking for the ball as we'll be without Gervinho. Unless Arshavin can pull his head from his rectum and realise hat he is a professional footballer and not a pie eater!Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I don't see RVP as an out and out finisher, but his skills bring a lot to the team...it does take him a good 5-6 games to come good though. He can bring players into the game and if we had a goalscorer alongside him it would be a perfect combination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Walcott on the other hand has pace and that's really all he offers, I don't see any nice skills or clever play, he'll chase a ball and he's decent when running in on goal, but still nothing special.
I'd personally rather have a finisher in the team, someone like Di Natale, players like him are priceless.
Henry was such a great footballer, he had an awesome shot, some nice skills and used his pace so well......there's no comparison, one was a manager's dream the other is a player with pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney
Remember when Henry first signed for us he scored quite a few goals but he also missed a lot of easy chances but he practiced and got better Theo can do the same just needs to be given the chance IMHO..Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Not really, overall his finishing when in front of goal isn't the best...it's better when he's running onto goal and has time to pick his spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
When Henry first arrived he took 6-7 games to adapt then there was no stopping him.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazthegooner
Walcott has had 5 years+
I saw Henry in the 98 World Cup and could see he was a terrific player then, he was also very good for Monaco.
Walcott just doesn't have the skills Henry has and never will have, like I said before his asset is pace, he's a little predictable but it's useful sometimes especially when teams become tired.
Not that theo's going to be the henry, but your making it out as if Theo Walcott who I think isn't even the age Henry was when he joined us, is now in is prime?
I'm not really, I also so Henry way before we signed him...he didn't end up at Juventus by chance, he was a quality player.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Walcott may not be in his prime but he's had 5+ years at a big club (most kids don't get that) so you'd expect him to be more advanced then some of the others of his age. What strikes me is that he's very predictable, he's quick so once he gets behind a defender they won't catch him but most of his game is average, there's no sparkle about him.
Same couldn't be said for Henry at his age.
It's stupid comparing anyone to Henry, he was one of the best players I've ever seen.
Theo's not consistent but he's clearly got some ability, his progress has been hampered by injuries but his stats are decent and if he can stay injury free this year I reckon he could do quite well.
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Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
He'll always have games where he's crowded out and is basically a passenger. But if he stays fit for once, he is a great asset.
If Henry had stayed at Juve where he was played out of position we'd see a different player.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Theo is a striker playing the role on a winger down the right. I don't think you understand how difficult that is. Henry was a winger converted into a striker. Taking on players and dribbling comes natural to him so all he had to do was sharpen up his finishing. He didn't even have to get used to playing with his back to goal because he'd pick up the ball from wide positions or deep his positioning and movement improved over the years.
Theo's off the ball movement, ability to exploit space and finishing are his best assets. Asking him to play on on the wide right won't get the best out of him. It's like asking Owen or Defoe to play as a right winger. He's done well to cope, but it time to push him over to the left or to the centre as a striker.
You've never been a supporter of Walcott and even after scoring a load of goals and setting up players, you still won't budge. I said before, if he stays injury free, he'll do well. Was I wrong? His stats are as good as our top wingers and he also shows up for the big games like yesterday, like last week, like the Tottenham derby and the Barca game. He'll have stinker of course, but cut him some slack at least. Credit where it's and that.
Henry was a fantastic player even as a winger as he demonstrated for Monaco and France before he moved, it's what earned him his move to Juve in the first place, sometimes players move to a club and it doesn't work (Bergkamp at Inter for example) but they usually earn a move to top clubs (and Juve were one of the best at the time) because they have performed.
I don't think the two are comparable, one was a very special footballer the other isn't. Walcott will play his role, scoring a few goals along the way but IMO Ox-Chamberlain has more potential, he's young yes but he seems to have more awareness of players around him, can beat players and generally appears to have a better grasp of the basics.
It's early day but I think he could be very very good (Oxo)
exactly, like the first leg, except that time the other way round. instinctive in front of goal and missed a late shot when he picked his corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
You missed my final point about Henry being a natural winger. Theo isn't a winger and doesn't think like a midfield player so he hasn't got the basics of a midfielder but he has the basics of a striker. Theo has had to learn how to beat players, dribble with the ball to feet and cross. It's the reverse of Henry and much harder because your asking a player that isn't used to dribbling on the flanks to do that. Again, it's like asking Owen to play as a winger. I'm not even going to bother with Oxo because he hasn't made his debut for us yet and he's a midfield player. Also, I think he prefers the middle and is more of a passer type, but we will see.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
But it's down to the players at the end of the day. We can talk all day, so far, Theo has been our most dangerous winger and the one most teams fear.
He's not instinctive in front of goal at all though, you'll often seem him miss those chances a goalscorer would put away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz