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when the fuck is this going to stop. every time we get fucked over, today, liverpool, newcastle away this year and last. its a fucking joke and surely we can have a kenny style rant and see if it works. the level of refeering is a fucking joke and we never get anything
Agreed.
The refs are almost as shite as the team.
We can't blame refereeing decisions for our shit form since March. It's happened because we have a shite manager and an even worse squad of players (who've been assembled by *******)
think team were shit today but if they hadnt got that disgrace of a goal then it would have been 1-1. its a fucking joke how mnay times we get fucked overQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
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Originally Posted by Joker
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
It's also a fucking joke how many times we fail to turn up for these big games and most games in general these days.
the refs dont coach our defense, nor did they sell Cesc, Nasri, Clichy and not replace any of them with like for like in the quality department.
feck off can you blame the ref, nothing wrong with VDV's goal its not his fault our team was shite today and only a 1/4 looked like they wanted to play and the other 3/4 are shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
only one man is to blame for today Wenger no one else
How do you know it would have been 1-1? We always find a way to throw it away in the big games, why assume today would be any different?Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
This, we'd have fucked it up anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
well yes there was something wrong with the goal, it was handball which imo is illegal in football and cheating. apart from that nothing wrong with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Im not so sure it was a definate handball.
What I will say is that if one of our players had the same thing and got pulled for it, it would have been harsh. The attacker should always get the benifit of the doubt if its borderline.
The loss had nothing to do with the ref.
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We can't do anything about refereeing decisions, but we can do something about the brainfarts we suffer when comfortable in possession.
But we don't.
And that is why you should be pissed off today.
It looked ok to me too. If you could criticise them for anything with the goal it was VDV not getting a 2nd yellow for going into the crowd when others have been booked for less. But the goal itself looked fine to me & after some of the shit this weekend, the referee had a decent enoguh match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
No idea what happened today as i didnt watch it but im more worried about the manager and board fucking us over than refs
Mike Dean, of all refs, had a good game today. He made some key errors, which is normal for him, but he didn't buy any of the shit diving around from their cheating bastards and he wasn't hysterical with the cards. Perhaps we've reached the stage where we are so insignificant the refs are starting to give us a fair shake.
Looked a clear handball to me and yes, he should have been sent off for going into the crowd. We'd still have fucked it up against 10 men though, which would have been more embarrassing, so maybe better there was no card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gubby Allen
What was the bad decision v Newcastle?
The barton incident and sending Gev off id assumeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
That wasnt a bad decision. Gervinho deserved to goQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
He deserved an extra couple of games tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
If you're gonna raise your hands, make it count.
And barton? who picked him up by the throat? or is that alright for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Barton isnt our playerQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Dont give a fuck about him
i think you make your own luck.
as we're shit we aren't having the run of the ball and any luck.
our own fault.
People never remember the decisions that go our way, it's always the ones that go against us....usually after we've lost, which at the moment is pretty regularly.
Well thats the same with every team though tbf. I don't thinks gooners have maoned about a ref for a while till today.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
was it the refs fault that Gerhvinio missed a sitter, or that Ramsey was awful..how about the fact that both goals were down to shocking defending
We'd be top now if it wasn't for those pesky referees.
i thought the team was shit yesterday from about 60 mins onwards, before that i was reasonably happy with them. but for all that what can they do if referees dont give you decisions that you should get. vdv controlling it with his arm to score, down 1-0 yet it shouldnt have been a goal. i dont want ot excuse the team for not fighting at the end but the referees just fuck us over as well.
one stat, last 9 games with dean, we havnt won, last 13 games with atkinson for chelsea they've won all of them. somehting isnt right
to be honest Ollie.....I dont think there is a conspiracy going on
ask any fan at the end of the season and they will run a list of as long as (something very long indeed eg a King Cobra) about if it wasnt for this or that decision they would have won or a least not lost that or this game........us included, I have seen decison go for and against us......tho it is the ones that go against that seem to fester longer, granted
I thought the ref had a decent game and as some have mentioned it wasnt him that lost it for us.......it was us
Someone mentioned about brainfarts whilst in possession and that is exactly what lost us the game.......we were crap but Spurs were equally so and for all those people that were saying they were scared of a whooping before kick off those fears were misled
We gave the ball away far too easily and once again were cut to pieces for both goals........
Can someone please get it through Wengers thick skull that he doesnt have the quality to play his pretty football anymore......I believe we have players that can win games but not the way we were in the past......trying to pass our way out of defence is suicidal these days. I dont lay the balme solely at Wengers feet for this fundamental act, the players lack the intelligence to know when the lump t down field an when to play it short......for me that and the number of times we passed to their player (Mr. Ramsey, your fucking time has got to be up) was what got yo me the most not Mike Dean
Yeah what a cunt of a ref, making Gervinho miss that sitter at 0-0, how dare he.
It's got nothing to do with the refs, we're not good enough anymore, plain and simple.
Never said it was, was guessing what Ollie must have meantQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Not really Its just how shit we were/are. Refs make mistakes some decisions we will get some we won't. I think we got a few yesterday that we should not have tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist