Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
Yeah totally agree, for me Dortmund was all Klopp, he's the one that turned them into the team they were, the football, the players, the success, Tuchel just inherited a very talented squad and didn't really do much with it or impress, if anything in Europe they looked far less clinical and much more brittle than under Klopp.

If he'd gone in and really changed things and made them a force, I'd agree, but from what I saw they were less of a force than before, that defeat to Liverpool was a real shocker, in complete control and then giving away essentially a 3 goal advantage twice showed real tactical naivety IMO.
Agreed. Would have to see a lot more from Tuchel. Its too premature to put him a anywhere near the elites. We've seen managers with way more accolades flop once they have gone to a bigger team. Remember Juande Ramos and Villas Boas? I don't mind saying we should take a risk, it's hard to project these things but the praise for Tuchel is way overboard. In fact, it's not even the praise, it's the talk as if he's certain for bigger and better things.