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Thread: Should Wenger go?

  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Toffee View Post
    I dont think Wenger should go. I love him too much. Ive also yet to read one single post that convinces me the alternative would be any better.
    If you love Wenger so much why don't you marry him?...or get a civil partnership or whatever the equivalent is.

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    I would if I could. Maybe il just stalk him and he'd have to get an injunction out on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Toffee View Post
    I would if I could. Maybe il just stalk him and he'd have to get an injunction out on me.
    Well don't be disheartened or put off by the injunction, no good stalker worth his salt would do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    My problem here is AW's uni-vocal support for that shit. Why would a 'football' manager openly support the daylight looting of a club he is managing.. he can quit any second! Its not like he will be a poor man tomorrow for it or have a tough time finding a job.
    Because he signed a contract and he has integrity. He has shown that throughout his career.
    As for whether he loves the club, you can see that however much our decline is hurting us it's hurting him more. You can SEE it. Look at him on the touchline, he's in pain. Whether he's the right man to do anything about it, I agree he isn't. But whether anyone else can with our idiot board is highly debatable.
    I don't think he backs the owners any more than he really thinks our squad is super, super quality. But he's not going to say anything publicly. Maybe he should but if nothing else he's a man of principle.

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    whatever one says about the board and their financial "i drink your milkshake" stance towards the club, i don't think it's responsible for the paucity of performances on the pitch. Win or lose is one thing, but to have no fight, no ideas and be bashing our heads against the proverbial brick wall season in season out like we have under this man is completely down to one man.

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    I don't think we lack fight right now. We lack ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I don't think we lack fight right now. We lack ability.
    I disagree, i think we lack both ability and fight....i don't think a single sunderland player is better than any of the players we had on the pitch last night, we are average and they are even more average but they had fight.

    In the past we just lacked fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    whatever one says about the board and their financial "i drink your milkshake" stance towards the club, i don't think it's responsible for the paucity of performances on the pitch. Win or lose is one thing, but to have no fight, no ideas and be bashing our heads against the proverbial brick wall season in season out like we have under this man is completely down to one man.
    It's not the right conversation. This team looks totally different from the Carling Cup collapse team but we have the se problems. The symptoms go all the way back Henry's days as Captaon, the Gallas era, Cesc's and now RVP's. Lack of ability is one thing, but there was a distinct lack of effort over the past couple of games. Milan was criminal. It shouldn't take a superstar players to fix this and in fact, I think Wenger would have a much harder time telling a superstar player to track back and defend because they can be the most difficult when it comes to that sort of thing and it takes a strong coach to get them to work hard on defence otherwise they'd take the piss and stay up front all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    whatever one says about the board and their financial "i drink your milkshake" stance towards the club, i don't think it's responsible for the paucity of performances on the pitch. Win or lose is one thing, but to have no fight, no ideas and be bashing our heads against the proverbial brick wall season in season out like we have under this man is completely down to one man.
    Whilst i agree what goes on the pitch is down to the manager, but in a way if the board are not relasing transfer money to him Then it is down to them. The team is not good enough thats the problem.

    Its not about their players not being better then ours its being a team and we suck as one. The team needed investment to make it much better and once you have a balanced team coaching becomes easier.

    This was the last chance to win a trophy, something the players keep banging on about, they really should not need a manager to motivate them in it, at HT they should have pumped themselves up, but they could not.

    A manager can only motivate a team so far in his control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I disagree, i think we lack both ability and fight....i don't think a single sunderland player is better than any of the players we had on the pitch last night, we are average and they are even more average but they had fight.

    In the past we just lacked fight
    Mmm. Maybe you're right
    Although there was a phase this season, after the disastrous start, where we seemed to be getting it together and they did look like a decent side there for a while who had a bit of fight about them. Now, I just don't know

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