Waiting periodOriginally Posted by Flavs
Waiting period
I see your perspective but dont agree with it. Yes, AW made us into a big club in Europe (not a top one) with his managerial skills from 98-06 but after that we have only gone downhill. We can look at our clubs existence from the 19th century to the day he signed and say we are doing well or we could look at the potential this club has had since early 2000s to really kick on and become the Madrids and Barcelona's of the world. I am looking at the later and saying that we have not utilized our great platform and moved on to bigger and better things.. sadly, we seem to have regressed quite a bit while other clubs seem to have caught up.
Yes, I thank AW for what he did for this club for the first part of his stay but his 2nd part has been a gradual decline into obscurity. SAF is one of the greatest managers ever but AW was right there with him till 2006, in fact he kicked SAF's butt on many occasions.. What on earth happened to AW since our move to Emirates baffles me!? Yes, I agree the resources are/were constrained due to the move to Emirates but surely we could have used the money we made of outgoing transfers. If that isnt/werent the case, then we shouldnt have moved to the Emirates at all.
I believe AW's stubbornness rather than an actual ineptitude as a manager is bringing us down. He took the route of youngsters to win something but has failed and it is fine that he tried and failed. Move on and learn from your mistakes.. that is something he hasnt done and that is why he needs to go. We see the same thing season after season- Weak Defense, inability to deal with long balls, no Plan B, inability to sign decent players as back up, persisting with garbage players, buying players and not giving them a chance (ala Park), playing players out of position (Diaby, Eduardo, Vela, Bendtner etc).
Yes, a new manager will not guarantee success just how billions of Arab dollars couldnt guarantee success till QPR fucked up and Utd did a self demolition. I would at least like Arsenal to give a shot into building on this great platform we have... sign a top manager or a young energetic manager. See where we go! I am confident that a manager like Klopp, Conte can take us to a whole new level!
Shocking.
This idea that we can't at least challenge for the title because of City/Chelsea is bogus. We have been somewhat close until March in 2007-2008, 2009-2010 and 2010-2011, but in all these seasons our lack of squad depth killed us. If we had supplemented the squad of 07-08 or 09-10 with experienced, quality players like for example Arteta and Podolski, I think we could have won the league in one of those seasons at least. In any case, in all those seasons (and last season) we had some terrible losses against teams with vastly inferior resources to us, like Blackburn, QPR, Wigan, Swansea. Players regularly say after a defeat against a relegation threatened side that "oh, maybe we underestimated them". This is unacceptable for a top club, and again questions have to be asked of the manager for letting the players go into their comfort zone and underestimate teams below them. It doesn't take Ł100M to solve these problems, it just takes good management skills. If we didn't take some teams in the bottom half of the league lightly, had signed a few more experienced players, we could have title success in the last few years, without having to spend huge amounts of money.Shocking.
Well sure but Chelsea were on the rise then and had only just started to splash the cash. They won the title the two seasons afterwards. Project youth was partly enforced by the stadium move but I do think Wenger has been far too cautious in the transfer market and we could have won some trophies and pushed harder in the league had he not been - even then we had a good title push in 07/08 before our all too predictable collapse.
I just think it's harder to win the title now. I don't think Wenger can do it for us but I'm really not sure anyone can. We now have 2 sides with billionaire owners and Utd who with Fergie will always be hard to topple.
Blackburn, Swansea, QPR, Wigan, Wolves and Norwich at home. If we had (as should be expected) picked up 3 points in all those games for a total of 18 points (instead of 2) we'd be 3 points behind the top 2, rather than 19. You don't need a squad of galacticos to win games against those sides. Walcott in the media admitted that we underestimated these sides. Surely it doesn't take money to solve problems like these? It's the mentality of the players that's the problem, and that has to come down to the manager because he signed these players and it's up to him to ensure they stay focused and don't underestimate anyone.
Disagree, in 90-91 we were awesome, thumping sides left right and centre and losing just one game.
Well considering Man U were well clear and collapsed uncharacteristically this season I disagree, the title was theirs but they blew it. This Man U team isn't even all that good either, if you spend on the right players, have a good work ethic, use good tactics and can motivate players to play for one another you have a chance.
What you need to do though is make sure the team is efficient, taking chances when they come and not making schoolboy errors at the back, you also need some strong characters to drive the team when things aren't going great in a game.
It's amazing how Wenger and his cronies have convinced half the fans winning isn't possible anymore, shocking as well to be honest. There's a losers mentaility at this club now, it's clear for all to see, noone really believes we can win anything anymore, it's a stark contrast to the early Wenger years or even Graham years when we always felt we had a shot.
I don't believe we can win anything at the moment to be honest, but that's only due to Wenger and the lack of investment in the team, put those two right and we have a great shot.
Last edited by Özim; 30-05-2012 at 05:22 PM.
It's not as if we couldn't beat City either. In fact, teams like City our the least of our worries. This talk of financial doping is a smokescreen. It's a massive distraction and keeps us from sorting out our own internal problems as a club.
What is all this drivel you geeks are posting? I was expecting to see some transfer talk but it's the usual Wenger drivel instead.
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