Clichy has left. And Nasri in talks with Citeh.

[Cripps_orig]

Thats very likely but I do not think any amount of training can take away the lapses of concentration that Clichy suffers from. I am glad we got rid of him, just hope TV5 is fit enough to play there for a long time... even if not TV5, I'd rather have Eboue over Gibbs.

Good luck to him though.. he spent 8 years with us and he always gave us 100% for the team and that is something you cant say about 90% of the team. I do think that he will be benched with Kolarov first choice

Kolarov is shit bar a decent free kick he takes once every blue moon.

Clichy will be first choice. I dont want anyone we currently have at our club to play LB. We have to buy someone. Baines or Enrique would do me fine.

[Özim]

You seriously think a club with limitless resources should be commended for spending their way to success? A billionaire could take over any club and can do that, it's been shown twice in the PL already. Chelsea were in the top 4 before they were board, City were in mid-table, just shows you can do it with anyone if you pump enough money in.

Wenger's made mistakes but his basic approch has been right. The frustrating thing is he has built a squad capable of success, a combination of poor defensive coaching, mental fragility and stubbonness from Wenger when he needed to spend some money has led to our failure.

Maybe not but neither is a club who rip off the fans with sky high ticket prices, spend next to nothing on transfers and then belittle them with patronising comments, all whilst employing a manager who defends being 4th place losers every season, watches his team his team collapse like rice paper under a tonne of bricks every season and then preaches about spirit and togetherness when half his squad want to leave .....and all this whilst he's picking up 6 million a year.

There's nothing to be proud of there. Yeah guess the sugar daddy option isn't as bad as it looks after all.

[Boss]

You seriously think a club with limitless resources should be commended for spending their way to success? A billionaire could take over any club and can do that, it's been shown twice in the PL already. Chelsea were in the top 4 before they were board, City were in mid-table, just shows you can do it with anyone if you pump enough money in.

Wenger's made mistakes but his basic approch has been right. The frustrating thing is he has built a squad capable of success, a combination of poor defensive coaching, mental fragility and stubbonness from Wenger when he needed to spend some money has led to our failure.

My point was that the player in our squad who should be most loyal to Wenger (bought as an unknown, been here 7+ years) has no more faith in his project.

Think that speaks for itself.

[Cripps_orig]

Maybe not but neither is a club who rip off the fans with sky high ticket prices, spend next to nothing on transfers and then belittle them with patronising comments, all whilst paying a manager who defends being 4th place losers every season, preaches about spirit and togetherness when half his squad want to leave and every season they collapse like rice paper under a tonne of bricks.....and all this whilst he's picking up 6 million a year.

There's nothing to be proud of there.

Both ways are shite ass ways to get successful tbh but id rather Citys way than ours

[Letters]

My point was that the player in our squad who should be most loyal to Wenger (bought as an unknown, been here 7+ years) has no more faith in his project.

Think that speaks for itself.

Hmm. Fair enough.

[Letters]

Both ways are shite ass ways to get successful tbh but id rather Citys way than ours

Seriously? So you wouldn't care that every trophy would be tainted by the fact that you only achieved it by spending a sugar-daddy's money and know that if he got bored and pissed off we'd be screwed.

Sod that, frankly. I want success but not like that. It's as meaningless as buying a degree off the internet and then celebrating your 'achievement'.

[Özim]

Both ways are shite ass ways to get successful tbh but id rather Citys way than ours

Yup agreed, both shite but with one at least you experience success and don't get the p*ss taken out of you.

[Özim]

Seriously? So you wouldn't care that every trophy would be tainted by the fact that you only achieved it by spending a sugar-daddy's money and know that if he got bored and pissed off we'd be screwed.

Sod that, frankly. I want success but not like that. It's as meaningless as buying a degree off the internet and then celebrating your 'achievement'.

Maybe so, but what we're doing is meaningless, the history books will at least remember the other team.

There's actually nothing pleasurable about what Wenger is doing, quite the opposite.

[Niall_Quinn]

You seriously think a club with limitless resources should be commended for spending their way to success? A billionaire could take over any club and can do that, it's been shown twice in the PL already. Chelsea were in the top 4 before they were board, City were in mid-table, just shows you can do it with anyone if you pump enough money in.

Wenger's made mistakes but his basic approch has been right. The frustrating thing is he has built a squad capable of success, a combination of poor defensive coaching, mental fragility and stubbonness from Wenger when he needed to spend some money has led to our failure.

I think Man Utd should be commended for managing to compete and win despite the financial strength of the opposition, and I think the Arsenal board and Wenger should be condemned for being so comprehensively whipped by a Utd board in constant turmoil, a manager who would have an excuse to lose the hunger after all these years but hasn't and a team that is technically inferior to ours.

We have bad leadership and trying to blame Man City for that is a non-starter really.

[cricketsi]

Yup agreed, both shite but with one at least you experience success and don't get the p*ss taken out of you.

I'll gladly take the piss out of anyone who genuinely feels that way.