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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    The players you mention could have worked out to be very good players. It's only cos they turned out to be shit that we're moaning about their wages.
    IF they worked out, we wouldnt have added players to take over their places. Bendy/Chakma = Podolski/Giroud, Diaby/Denilson = Cazorla, Squid/DJ = Per/Kos

    I dont know about Arshavin but there were reports that we turned down bids for Chakma this summer. If true, we should be ashamed at asking money for a player like him. If we can pay to get rid, we will still do good!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    IF they worked out, we wouldnt have added players to take over their places. Bendy/Chakma = Podolski/Giroud, Diaby/Denilson = Cazorla, Squid/DJ = Per/Kos

    I dont know about Arshavin but there were reports that we turned down bids for Chakma this summer. If true, we should be ashamed at asking money for a player like him. If we can pay to get rid, we will still do good!
    Yeah I know, they didn't work out so we bought new players - not sure what you're getting at? I think we agree that those players you mentioned are shit. But we didn't know they're shit when we bought them and offered them contracts. They could have worked out to be excellent players and therefore the wages they're earning now wouldn't be an issue.

    I'd be amazed if we turned down bids for Chamspak. He doesn't even make the bench. More like we offered him on a free but he refused to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    If you pay Walcott £80k a week then what are you gonna pay the rest of them when their contracts are up? Santi £150k? Ox, Jack, Merts etc? Does Walcott deserve to earn more than Arteta, Merts, Verm, Jack?? Our wage bill is fucking huge as it is.

    All this stuff about Walcott wanting to play up front is pure bollocks. It's about money and nothing else. Does he think Man U, Citeh, Chavs etc would buy him and play him as a striker????

    Wenger's not an idiot, if he thought Walcott would be a revelation as a striker he'd play him up as a striker.

    Walcott is a super sub. Always has been. Always will be.

    Nothing wrong with being a super sub but not worth £80k pw.

    Sign a Spaniard instead.
    All the players you've mentioned will encounter this problem in the near future because our wage structure is restrictive. Worrying about what we pay them if we give into Walcott is a moot point because if any of them are near the £70 - £80k mark and prove themselves to be valuable players for us, the club will most likely play hardball with them and we're likely to lose them. Under this structure, we're likely to lose all of our top players.

    This is hypothetical, but say we had 4 top players all up for contract renewals and all seeking £100k a week. We'd lose all 4 players because we're so stubborn and rigid. If it's a case we only had £200k to spend on such players, why not give two star plays have the £100k a week and the other two can walk? Wouldn't that make more sense instead of trying to offer 4 players an even amount and all four of them walking because we won't break our wage structure?

    We need to retain our key players and like it or not, Theo is one of them. We could probably wouldn't have picked up all 3 points without him and he contributed to us getting 3rd last season. If you don't rate him…whatever really, but the argument about our wage structure is still relevant because we keep losing key players and as long as we stick to this policy, a player you really rate will most likely walk in the near future too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    Yeah I know, they didn't work out so we bought new players - not sure what you're getting at? I think we agree that those players you mentioned are shit. But we didn't know they're shit when we bought them and offered them contracts. They could have worked out to be excellent players and therefore the wages they're earning now wouldn't be an issue.

    I'd be amazed if we turned down bids for Chamspak. He doesn't even make the bench. More like we offered him on a free but he refused to go.
    What I am trying to get at is why we didnt sell these players! Denilson couldve been sold for a little cheaper, same goes for Bendy and Chakma. Thats 3 players at least off the wage bill
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    What I am trying to get at is why we didnt sell these players! Denilson couldve been sold for a little cheaper, same goes for Bendy and Chakma. Thats 3 players at least off the wage bill
    We can't sell them because they wont take a drop in wages to join another club.

    We can (and have) offer them for free but if they wont take a drop in wages then we have two choices:

    1. Loan them to at least get a club to pay some of their wages, with us paying the balance. We have done this but again it's up to the players to accept the loan.

    2. Pay them off to leave the club like City paid Adebayor £5m to fuck off.

    Bottom line is we cannot get rid of a player if the player does not want to move. Even if we offer them a free transfer. We could pay up their contract just to get them out the door but there's no point as you're not saving any money.

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    I think Theo is going to go and Segrio Gnabbers will be promoted. Wenger's already talked of him being in the mould of Theo and Chamberlain, and that he thinks he'll be playing this season. He's 17, about the time that the midget midfielders get their chances. And Wenger has probably weighed up his talent and reckons he can make positive contributions fairly soon. I suppose it's nothing out of the ordinary. So Theo in January? We do not like to make predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    If you pay Walcott £80k a week then what are you gonna pay the rest of them when their contracts are up? Santi £150k? Ox, Jack, Merts etc? Does Walcott deserve to earn more than Arteta, Merts, Verm, Jack??
    Yes to Arteta and Jack

    Arteta is average

    Jack hasnt kicked a ball in 14 months and should be on 2k a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Yes to Arteta and Jack

    Arteta is average

    Jack hasnt kicked a ball in 14 months and should be on 2k a week
    That's really bad WUMming - well below your usual standard.
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    Let Walcott go. He's never gonna make it to the very top anyway wherever he goes. Sure, he'll get the odd brilliant goal in the PL or for England and everyone will wet themselves about him, but then he will be anonymous for the next few games. I know he's still relatively young but he's old enought to play 5 good games on the trot. Another Saun Wright-Phillips in my opinion
    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner View Post
    I think Theo is going to go and Segrio Gnabbers will be promoted. Wenger's already talked of him being in the mould of Theo and Chamberlain, and that he thinks he'll be playing this season. He's 17, about the time that the midget midfielders get their chances. And Wenger has probably weighed up his talent and reckons he can make positive contributions fairly soon. I suppose it's nothing out of the ordinary. So Theo in January? We do not like to make predictions.

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    So is he dead? Wonder if he'll sign now?
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