Match Reaction v Bayern

[Power n Glory]

I read the comments from Wenger about English football being in decline, what he failed to point out is that we've been going out before the QF for a few years now, not the other teams and yet he never pointed to our failings.

English teams have had a bad season but Man U gave real game and as mentioned Chelsea won it last season and these teams will be back next season........not so sure about us, we have definitely been in decline, something he refuses to acknowledge, he still talks about our quality, spirit and the mentality of the team without recognising it's his weakest group of players and that there's barely a world class player in the squad.

He's so good at deflecting criticism away from us and pretending everything is rosy, this is what makes me think he won't make many changes in the summer, it's the same cycle repeating itself over and over again, I simply don't understand how anyone could keep making the same errors for so long.

Chelsea finished outside of the top 4 last year and there is a possibility the same will happen again this year. I think Wenger has point because this isn't an agenda he's all of a sudden conjured up. In the build all they talked about was us being the last English team in the competition and he continued the dialogue. He’s not wrong even if we are in decline as a force. Chelsea went out early, they’re supposed to be the defending champs, City went out early (Prem Champs), Man Utd are out and this isn’t the best team they’ve had…we’re seeing a lot of English teams in transition at the moment. The top teams are nowhere near as strong as what they were 3-4 years ago.

[Alpha]

Anyone who cant praise the team for what for they did Yesterday can consider himself not a true gooner . We all know Bayern Munich have more quality than us .After what happened in the first game , many were expecting us to be humiliated and were praying for the score honourable .Most would have settled for a draw before kick-off. Now , Arsenal have done much more than that . Beating mighty at home but what they get is sticks from thier own fans . That is more than ridiculous

[Syn]

Alpha as fuck!

[topgun]

He's so good at deflecting criticism away from us and pretending everything is rosy, this is what makes me think he won't make many changes in the summer, it's the same cycle repeating itself over and over again, I simply don't understand how anyone could keep making the same errors for so long.

Well if you were getting 7 millon a year for taking the club backwards and pulling the wool over people's eyes for so long you would keep it going as long as possible also,that's 56 million in your bank account for the last eight years,nice money when you can get it and no sign of it stopping anytime soon.Keep up the good work.

[LDG]

Alpha as fuck!

[Cripps_orig]

Would rather we won as we did than lose as i expected

Some positives from the game, some negatives. If we can keep on with the positives and learn from the negatives ie never play Arteta again then we can say its the match where we started to get our Arsenal back. However the likelihood is we'll see the same old shit v Swansea.

[Özim]

Chelsea finished outside of the top 4 last year and there is a possibility the same will happen again this year. I think Wenger has point because this isn't an agenda he's all of a sudden conjured up. In the build all they talked about was us being the last English team in the competition and he continued the dialogue. He’s not wrong even if we are in decline as a force. Chelsea went out early, they’re supposed to be the defending champs, City went out early (Prem Champs), Man Utd are out and this isn’t the best team they’ve had…we’re seeing a lot of English teams in transition at the moment. The top teams are nowhere near as strong as what they were 3-4 years ago.

Chelsea won it last season you can't get better than that, Man U got beaten but what is IMO the best team in the competition but gave them a real game....Man City are inexperienced in the CL and have disappointed but they're better than they have shown.

I agree we're not where we were 4-5 years ago but there's still good enough to get into the latter stages, us on the other hand we've been rubbish for a while and never had a hope of winning this thing or even getting to the latter stages without a very favourable draw.

The guy on the one hand analyses English football and says they should watch out and on the other hand praises 4th place and qualifying for the CL for 15 years despite have failed totally in the last few years.

At what point does the guy stop deflecting the attention away from his own team which have been sadly lacking in many departments, something he fails to acknowledge year after year.

[Power n Glory]

Chelsea won it last season you can't get better than that, Man U got beaten but what is IMO the best team in the competition but gave them a real game....Man City are inexperienced in the CL and have disappointed but they're better than they have shown.

I agree we're not where we were 4-5 years ago but there's still good enough to get into the latter stages, us on the other hand we've been rubbish for a while and never had a hope of winning this thing or even getting to the latter stages without a very favourable draw.

The guy on the one hand analyses English football and says they should watch out and on the other hand praises 4th place and qualifying for the CL for 15 years despite have failed totally in the last few years.

At what point does the guy stop deflecting the attention away from his own team which have been sadly lacking in many departments, something he fails to acknowledge year after year.

If journalists were sharp they'd ask what he'd do if UEFA took away one of the Prem's champs league spot. He can forget about 4the being like a trophy then.

He can often deflect attention away but I think it's been a part of discussions this week since we were the last team in the comp.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

i agree with that. i think it is far too easy to say that if bayern wanted to hammer us they could've. well given how professional and clinical those fuckers are, my guess is that they sure as hell wanted to pound us again. they obviously expected it to be easier and started with the wrong mentality and our organised defence kept them outside of our box for most of the game. i'm also convinced that they for two years they have had their fair share of dodgy performances yet always had enough to roll over the opposition, no matter who they are, so of course we deserve credit for a victory there. teams start games with the wrong approach, as we all know from our experiences, and the point is to take advantage of that, which we did. it is still bayern, no set of mugs, so a 3-0 win no matter what their performance is bloody hard task no matter who it is.

we fucked up in the first leg, pure and simple. the start of our second half at the emirates and our more organised approach show that we could and should've made more of a game of the first leg, which is where we messed everything up as usual.

people are right to say we should be turning up in the first leg/half of ties, that is obvious. we've all seen that pain this year. but if the team do as, and if not better, than expected, then i think it's fair to still give credit where it is due. otherwise we never will and everything, absolutely everything, becomes bitter, sad and an absolutely horrible experience. pretty pointless to. football is supposed to be fun in part.

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[Japan Shaking All Over]

We did ourselves absolutely no favours at all in the first leg we the kind of mentality that has becime all too familiar over this ever increasing barren spell - Wenger said himself third goal we cinceded at home was a killer.
However we went out there and put in a display that we can be proud of. . .and make no mistake those of us who are proud are not disillusional at the same time. . .we still,see the massive need for a overhaul in almost every facet of the club apart from the pies!