Wenger Referendum IV

[LDG]

Ok I should expand upon that and say i'm getting the impression that the fan reaction to these bad results seems to have no bearing on his thinking on how tenable he feels his position is.

Now this is not me saying the protests should discontinue far from it, in fact i think it should be escalated so the likes of Gazidis and Kroenke know they have to step in and take control, the decision cannot be left to Wenger because i now believe there is nothing that will cause him to think enough is enough.

The protests should be directed towards all of them, not just Wenger.

Lets face it, Wenger going only chops the weed off above the surface. It doesn't kill off the root.

[selassie]

We face either Chelsea, City, Utd or Spurs in the Semi final. If we tale a beating in the Semi's or lose to Spurs, it will kick off again. Heck, we still have league games to play. West Brom away and then City. Spurs away and Utd at home still to play. He's far off from being off the hook.

I hope so but I'm resigned to the fact that he's going to be here for a while yet. Regardless of the outcome he always has an excuse...there is always a reason.

Expectations are so low right now that I would hazard a guess that the majority believe we won't get back in the top 4 this season and we will lose to one of the teams in the Cup Semi-Finals.

I actually think he has verbally agreed to sign on for a couple more years but no statement will be made until the season finishes.

[Globalgunner]

The protests should be directed towards all of them, not just Wenger.

Lets face it, Wenger going only chops the weed off above the surface. It doesn't kill off the root.

There are only 2 people who matter in the Arsenal equation. Wenger himself and Kroenke who couldnt give a toss, as long as money is still being made. The only person culpable for this shit state of affairs is Wenger because he constructed all of this himself. He does not even deny it. The first thing he said when Kroenke bought the majority shares was. " I will leave unless he allows me to run things the way i have been doing before.

The funny thing is. given how much this so called billionaire loves money, to the point of taking a piffling 3m out of the club each year for spurious reasons. He could hire a world class manager like Allegri or Simeone for half of what they currently pay Wenger....and achieve same or better results. But Kroenke is an indolent owner...all his teams are shit, but he doesnt care since in the US all teams are guaranteed to make money end there is no such thing as relegation.

[Power n Glory]

Ok I should expand upon that and say i'm getting the impression that the fan reaction to these bad results seems to have no bearing on his thinking on how tenable he feels his position is.

Now this is not me saying the protests should discontinue far from it, in fact i think it should be escalated so the likes of Gazidis and Kroenke know they have to step in and take control, the decision cannot be left to Wenger because i now believe there is nothing that will cause him to think enough is enough.

I don't think he's done a U turn on what was said last week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...rsenal-future/

But I'm not really referring to that either. I don't think a win against Lincoln is enough to satisfy the fans as NQ suggests. Not sure where he's gotten this idea that things have changed.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don't think he's done a U turn on what was said last week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...rsenal-future/

But I'm not really referring to that either. I don't think a win against Lincoln is enough to satisfy the fans as NQ suggests. Not sure where he's gotten this idea that things have changed.

It's changed for him, would he have made the brainwashed fans comment after the 5-1 defeat on tuesday? Perhaps but i think there's a level even to his brazenness.

[Power n Glory]

It's changed for him, would he have made the brainwashed fans comment after the 5-1 defeat on tuesday? Perhaps but i think there's a level even to his brazenness.

I don't see how that indicates a change in thinking. I think he's determined to win the fans back, as earlier reports indicate, and delusional enough to believe the problem stems from the press brainwashing the fans along with poor results. If he feels he can get us back on track with performances, the atmosphere will change. Maybe it will but I can't see this squad turning up for him in the games I mentioned. I don't know how he'll react if the mood gets worse with the fans.

[Power n Glory]

The protests should be directed towards all of them, not just Wenger.

Lets face it, Wenger going only chops the weed off above the surface. It doesn't kill off the root.

A protest won't get rid of the owners. The only hope is that a forward thinking manager comes in that can inject this club with new life and ideas.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

A protest won't get rid of the owners. The only hope is that a forward thinking manager comes in that can inject this club with new life and ideas.

No, No, No.....i wasn't saying about getting rid of the owners (obviously we'd both like that but yes of course it's incredibly unlikely)

What i mean is that the protests need to be geared to make the so-called board to act against Wenger, as i am no longer convinced fan pressure will make him leave of his own accord.

That said, how you'd do that....shrugs shoulders...no idea

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don't see how that indicates a change in thinking. I think he's determined to win the fans back, as earlier reports indicate, and delusional enough to believe the problem stems from the press brainwashing the fans along with poor results. If he feels he can get us back on track with performances, the atmosphere will change. Maybe it will but I can't see this squad turning up for him in the games I mentioned. I don't know how he'll react if the mood gets worse with the fans.

I don't think Wenger is stupid, i don't believe for a second he believes telling fans they are brainwashed will win them over. I think he's saying "well they are so easily influenced and knee jerk that their opinion carries no weight anyway".

[Power n Glory]

No, No, No.....i wasn't saying about getting rid of the owners (obviously we'd both like that but yes of course it's incredibly unlikely)

What i mean is that the protests need to be geared to make the so-called board to act against Wenger, as i am no longer convinced fan pressure will make him leave of his own accord.

That said, how you'd do that....shrugs shoulders...no idea

That post was quoting LDG. I got what you said and agree.