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    IMO Wenger's biggest oversight of his tenure here is not replacing Vieria, we haven't had a ball winner in midfield since as far as I'm concerned. I'd probably even say we miss Vieira more than Henry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    What made them great was that the team was the optimum sum of it's parts. Partnerships all over the pitch and teamwork in abundance, all of them were warriors.

    The depth wasn't brilliant but we had reliable players like Wiltord, Kanu and Edu who could seamlessly slot in.
    Not really tbh

    Sol Campbell - Best in the world in his position
    Henry - Best in the world in his position
    Pires - Best in the world in his position (in 2002)
    Vieira - Best in the world in his position
    Ashley Cole - Best in the world in his position
    Bergkamp - I'm told he was one of the best in the world in his position

    Massively underperformed for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    Not really tbh

    Sol Campbell - Best in the world in his position
    Henry - Best in the world in his position
    Pires - Best in the world in his position (in 2002)
    Vieira - Best in the world in his position
    Ashley Cole - Best in the world in his position
    Bergkamp - I'm told he was one of the best in the world in his position

    Massively underperformed for me.
    One of the biggest regrets for me was throwing away the 03 title. That should have been 3 titles on the spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    One of the biggest regrets for me was throwing away the 03 title. That should have been 3 titles on the spin.
    I added a comment about the 2003 miss but deleted it.

    The biggest regret. After Wayne Bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    IMO Wenger's biggest oversight of his tenure here is not replacing Vieria, we haven't had a ball winner in midfield since as far as I'm concerned. I'd probably even say we miss Vieira more than Henry.
    Oversight?

    Can you point to another Patrick Vieira in football today?


    You can't replace a once-in-a-kind player. There are 3-man midfields now because there isn't a Vieira.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    IMO Wenger's biggest oversight of his tenure here is not replacing Vieria, we haven't had a ball winner in midfield since as far as I'm concerned. I'd probably even say we miss Vieira more than Henry.
    The problem wasn't so much in winning the ball deep (as we still had Gilberto for that) but the genius of Vieira was he was the ultimate box to box player he could win the ball deep but also either run with it or distribute it so we could break with pace. The problem when he went and what we still have today is that we tend to dither so much on the counter that the other team is able to get men back by the time we get out of our own third.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    Oversight?

    Can you point to another Patrick Vieira in football today?
    We didn't need a clone, I just don't think passive pass merchant like Fabregas was ever going to be adequate enough.

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    Coquelin is an excellent DM and works his nuts off chasing back but his ball distribution and his ability to run with the ball to set up an attack is limited and that's why you need someone sitting deep alongside him. Wenger does recognise this and has opted to play Cazorla in the box to box position which he can do and at his best excels at it given that it's not his natural position but when we are attacking he is slow to get back and can leave Coq doing too much cleaning up work on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The problem wasn't so much in winning the ball deep (as we still had Gilberto for that) but the genius of Vieira was he was the ultimate box to box player he could win the ball deep but also either run with it or distribute it so we could break with pace. The problem when he went and what we still have today is that we tend to dither so much on the counter that the other team is able to get men back by the time we get out of our own third.
    Yep. We win the ball back and the won't play it forward quick enough or won't see anyone making purposeful runs.

    Just thought I'd post this one up. I think we have a good player on our hands here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Coquelin is an excellent DM and works his nuts off chasing back but his ball distribution and his ability to run with the ball to set up an attack is limited and that's why you need someone sitting deep alongside him. Wenger does recognise this and has opted to play Cazorla in the box to box position which he can do and at his best excels at it given that it's not his natural position but when we are attacking he is slow to get back and can leave Coq doing too much cleaning up work on his own.
    Snap. But I think Coquelin has a lot more to show with his dribbling and passing. He's shown in a few games recently he can spread the ball and I remember seeing him at the Emirates having a storm of a game. Dribbling, passing and hard tackles. We have more to come from this guy.

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