Arsenal's Decline: Are there any easy answers?

[Xhaka Can’t]

So what if it gets on the news? In fact I'd rather it didn't. News is for real news, not for reports on a group of pissed off football fans.

At every post here, you display your naivety. I wasn't expecting my e-mail to spark a wholesale change in direction. And what you promote above, happened at United (well most of it), and the result? Nothing. No change at all. People talk here (myself included) about 'papering over cracks'. Well that is EXACTLY what is happening at Old Trafford right now. When the best Manager in the business retires - and that can't be far away, you'll see the true situation there. A situation that has not changed one iota from the first day of discontent.

As for back at Arsenal, I'm sure that others have e-mailed and it is evident that MANY other people are staying away or at least reducing the amount of times they go. Don't think for one minute that the Marketing guys and the Board haven't got this on their radar. Empty seats and lost revenue will be at the top of their agenda. The thing is, it will take time, it will take a further reduction in the demand that until recently vastly outstripped supply, but there will come a tipping point, just as the tipping point of regularly weakening the team has arrived.

You also discount or are unaware of the efforts of the AST who have put their money where their mouths are. They get speaking to the right people and they get a platform at the Club, and they make it clear to the people that matter what the feelings are. That, and a reduction in people going will be far more effective than throwing tantrums when you should be supporting the team during matches.

[Fats]

Answers are easy.

This is no longer about football, its just business right?.

If any manager or board fails in business what happens? They go under or they change the way they used to trade to become successful.

So the shareholders of that business (fans) must protest if they are not getting a return or they will no longer invest.

Yeah and there is the problem, the emotional attachment. That emotional frustration has to be used wisely. The anger and frustration is evident in the stadium now as a lot of fans were too scared to critisize Wenger, but now this has changed.

If you pay money to go to the games you have every right to boo in the same way you have the right to cheer. Your not there to massage players ego's when they give 50% effort while earning millions. Your there because you love the club, and no individual is bigger than the club, absolutely nobody. We won the league before Wenger and we will win it in the future without him. He is our present manager and that is it. He cant walk on water, and he certainly has no devine right to be here, the same as the players. They must earn the right to play, not just turn up.

So answers are easy its the time limit needed is what fans are worried about. The amount of work needed to pull this around is huge and that is another reason protest is needed. Mistakes have never been learnt from.

These people have to be replaced for failure like you and I would be in our representative places of employment.

We made this club we must take the power back.

[Flavs]

As for noise in stadiums, i have been to a few myself and found arsenal fans to be the quitest. May be I came to watch small games against chelsea n city. I think it will be louder when we play teams of our standard- fulham, west brom etc

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[Letters]

This is no longer about football, its just business right?.

If any manager or board fails in business what happens? They go under or they change the way they used to trade to become successful.

Yes, Arsenal are a business and as a business we're not failing. If a business aims to make profit by maximising income and restricting expenditure then Arsenal are doing a great job. And that's where fan protests at games will ultimately fail. Because businesses don't care about their customers. Not really. They care about their money of course and that means they have to feign interest in the customers themselves but if people are paying £50 or more to go along and boo then why would the powers that be care about that? They've still got our money. The only effective protest is withdrawal of custom en masse and with the number of tourists and emotional attachment to the club that's not going to happen.

Whaddaya do?

[GP]

Yes, Arsenal are a business and as a business we're not failing. If a business aims to make profit by maximising income and restricting expenditure then Arsenal are doing a great job. And that's where fan protests at games will ultimately fail. Because businesses don't care about their customers. Not really. They care about their money of course and that means they have to feign interest in the customers themselves but if people are paying £50 or more to go along and boo then why would the powers that be care about that? They've still got our money. The only effective protest is withdrawal of custom en masse and with the number of tourists and emotional attachment to the club that's not going to happen.

Whaddaya do?

Suicide bomb?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yes, Arsenal are a business and as a business we're not failing. If a business aims to make profit by maximising income and restricting expenditure then Arsenal are doing a great job. And that's where fan protests at games will ultimately fail. Because businesses don't care about their customers. Not really. They care about their money of course and that means they have to feign interest in the customers themselves but if people are paying £50 or more to go along and boo then why would the powers that be care about that? They've still got our money. The only effective protest is withdrawal of custom en masse and with the number of tourists and emotional attachment to the club that's not going to happen.

Whaddaya do?

Top post sir letters

[Xhaka Can’t]

Yes, Arsenal are a business and as a business we're not failing. If a business aims to make profit by maximising income and restricting expenditure then Arsenal are doing a great job. And that's where fan protests at games will ultimately fail. Because businesses don't care about their customers. Not really. They care about their money of course and that means they have to feign interest in the customers themselves but if people are paying £50 or more to go along and boo then why would the powers that be care about that? They've still got our money. The only effective protest is withdrawal of custom en masse and with the number of tourists and emotional attachment to the club that's not going to happen.

Whaddaya do?

Drink beer and eat pies.

[Syn]

Yes, Arsenal are a business and as a business we're not failing. If a business aims to make profit by maximising income and restricting expenditure then Arsenal are doing a great job. And that's where fan protests at games will ultimately fail. Because businesses don't care about their customers. Not really. They care about their money of course and that means they have to feign interest in the customers themselves but if people are paying £50 or more to go along and boo then why would the powers that be care about that? They've still got our money. The only effective protest is withdrawal of custom en masse and with the number of tourists and emotional attachment to the club that's not going to happen.

Whaddaya do?

What do you think about the attendances that dropped earlier on in the season? - quite a few league home games were going on general sale and not getting sold out. That never used to happen so regularly. I think fans do hold some power but it just takes too long. A few games in a row (3 or 4) of loud booing and demonstrations outside the ground would cause a reaction from the club, I'm sure. But I don't think our fans are unified against the higher-ups, which is fair enough.

[Coney]

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[Olivier's xmas twist]

What do you think about the attendances that dropped earlier on in the season? - quite a few league home games were going on general sale and not getting sold out. That never used to happen so regularly. I think fans do hold some power but it just takes too long. A few games in a row (3 or 4) of loud booing and demonstrations outside the ground would cause a reaction from the club, I'm sure. But I don't think our fans are unified against the higher-ups, which is fair enough.

IMO, it won't do anything, never worked for those protesting at old trafford over Green and yellow. Its not worked At blackeye. And i can see this board or AW backing down to fans, Unless fans vote with their feet. All boos do is disrupt the team imo.

I think Arsenal fans are to calm and collected to do things like that anyways.