Match Reaction Arsenal vs United

[Niall_Quinn]

SHould've sent this cunt home crying, now look at him :


He's never lost against us since he left

He'll be able to find a nice restaurant to watch CL footie from next season.

[BOBN]

Jack Wilshere was woeful too. 0/0 tackles, 0/0 interceptions, 57/70 passes completed (81%) 1 attempt on goal. He gives the ball away in bad areas and it’s not just bad passing, he’s getting tackled and left flat on his ass far too often which results in a counter. The RVP header that was tipped on to the bar from Szczesny came from Wilshere getting tackled further up the pitch whilst we had bodies forward. He’s reckless.

Disgusting statistics. Fraudulent player with no position hes even acceptable in. Excels at absolutely nothing.

Yet his market value should be £20m+. First question i'd ask a prospective manager in interview is "would you sell Wilshere?". We need a maverick in charge if we want to compete with the petrodollar clubs.

[Power n Glory]

Jack (both last night and against Liverpool) was trying to force things to happen in a team that's not set up to make things happen. Ozil was doing the same last night. Our rapid and accurate passing to serve movement and the interchange of players has gone. Now we're static, slow, predictable. It's a symptom of the manager's fear of losing. We've seen hints of it from early in the season, the first real manifestation against Everton, who if they had as potent strike force as Liverpool would have done us 5-1 too, and we saw a taste of the disaster to come when we played Southampton.

Raises the question, is it better to be a bit ambitious, play decent football and finish 4th. Or is it better to shut up shop and claw towards the top? Neither approach has quite enough to get the desired results when it matters. 3 or 4 more top quality players required and this isn't surprising after all the years of selling and not replacing that quality.

Jack takes too many risks and offers little reward. He shouldn’t be starting. The way he tries to force the game shows his immaturity. We have better options on the bench. Jack’s poor defending often gets overlooked because he appears to be busy. He didn’t attempt a single tackle and didn’t even win an interception. He didn’t improve on his Liverpool game and didn’t learn any lessons because he’s not winning tackles or intercepting the ball and it’s worse that he loses the ball so often.

[Özim]

Jack (both last night and against Liverpool) was trying to force things to happen in a team that's not set up to make things happen. Ozil was doing the same last night. Our rapid and accurate passing to serve movement and the interchange of players has gone. Now we're static, slow, predictable. It's a symptom of the manager's fear of losing. We've seen hints of it from early in the season, the first real manifestation against Everton, who if they had as potent strike force as Liverpool would have done us 5-1 too, and we saw a taste of the disaster to come when we played Southampton.

Raises the question, is it better to be a bit ambitious, play decent football and finish 4th. Or is it better to shut up shop and claw towards the top? Neither approach has quite enough to get the desired results when it matters. 3 or 4 more top quality players required and this isn't surprising after all the years of selling and not replacing that quality.

Excuses excuses, noone forces him to give away simple 5 yard passes every 5 minutes, BOBN is right he excels at nothing, he's one of Wenger's fledglings and that's a bad thing IMO as it means trying to play everything through the centre and no end product, he has 1 good game every 5 games and the rest of the time he's a liability who doesn't tackle well, gets caught on the ball and gives the ball away. Running around like a headless chicken does not equal a good performance.

I just don't get the fuss over this guy, he's got an awful long way to go to become anywhere near good enough to be playing regularly, we've got more than enough midfielders anyway and need to cull a few to make space for other players IMO.

[JonasTC]

Looking back and have released all the anger were we really that bad? I mean, De Gea had 3-4 really good saves, Valencia saved it on the line and Giroud bottled 2 huuuge chances he should have scored on. On a better day that would have been a comfortable 2+ score for us (and yes, i know Szscesny saved our asses aswell, before all the haters reply).

[Özim]

Well we barely played for 60 minutes or so, then Cazorla had a few pops at goal and Giroud missed his usual sitters. Not good enough a reaction after a 5-1 defeat, they owed it to the fans to produce a performance yesterday.

A draw was a fair result, we were the home team and the onus was on us to beat a side lying 7th, totally out of form who lack quality, we didn't do it and didn't try hard enough either.

Lack of desire from the players from the off, lack of substitutions and offensive tactics. We've got this can't win a big game thing hanging over us at the moment, yesterday might have been a start to putting that behind us (even though Man U are let's face it sh*t), we didn't manage it and you just feel that this will be our downfall, we just can't win the big games and that I'm afraid is down to Wenger.

Read a post on another Arsenal forum which sums up our chances:

Just checked William Hill to see how much its on for us to win the league. They have us 10/1 and they have Liverpool 8/1. Never have I seen a team this stage of the season with 1 point from the top to be such a high price. Its amazing how little faith they have on us and they have had all season. Its like they been saying all season they are falling away, dont worry about them. But when Liverpool have bigger chance than us to win the league, then it says something

Bookies are in it for the money and are rarely wrong, I don't think Wenger is capable of building a winning side anymore, a side to get top 4 yes, but not one to actually win.

[Marc Overmars]

There's a reason why we've been treated like the fly on wall in this title race. Unfortunately it seems like we may prove the doubters right, again.

[AFC Leveller]

The Ox had a good game in the middle against Palace, scored two good goals as well so why wasnt he given a run in CM? we really need and miss Ramsay's penetration through the middle and the Ox is the only we have that offers that right now.

I'd play him, Flams and Rosicky against Liverpool with Gnabs and Pod out wide.

[BOBN]

Wait can we revisit the Mata debate?

Is there anybody left whos still acting like he isnt a mediocre C-level player?

One of the most untalented "flair" players ive ever seen and yep, Willian is better. We need a manager like Mourinho who doesnt give a bloody damn about fan favourites and will use their overhype to generate funds. Wilshere wouldnt get into a Mourinho squad let alone team. He'd be Josh MacEachraned.

[Özim]

There's a reason why we've been treated like the fly on wall in this title race. Unfortunately it seems like we may prove the doubters right, again.

Some people have questioned why anyone would doubt our chances recently, it's pretty clear to me, we've pretty much for the last 8 almost 9 years seen Wenger sides collapse and fall away whenever they've been well placed, we're always missing a few key ingredients to make us a genuine threat IMO, when we have all the ingredients the fans will acknowledge we've got a good chance.

Those ingredients need to be bought it, but not on the cheap as this rarely works, you want to bring in the genuine article, once we have them we should be able to tinker with our style of play to make us more potent.

The issue is the manager has to acknowledge these needs, generally he doesn't and thus the cycle continues year on year.