What do you suggest?Originally Posted by topgun
What do you suggest?
The difference between Dortmund and Arsenal is that Klopp will address the issues in January and strengthen. We'll just sit back and accept the shit we have, then wonder why we haven't improved.
If we invested adequately to address our deficiencies we'd probably be more lenient on the idiot in charge and he'd be given a bit more sympathy, as it takes time for players to gel and for new players to fit into a system etc. But the fact we've failed to strengthen in key areas makes it completely unforgivable.
It doesn't help that there's no system either. We are aimlessly listing towards wherever we end up. And it is as boring as hell watching it happen, knowing there is nothing we can do about it.
Arsenal simply aren't worth watching any more. At any price.
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Agreed about the interview, I honestly don't see what the big deal is about it. He was absolutely right to call the interviewer out when she tried to twist his words to manufacture a headline. After that it's just dodging questions about blame and his transfer dealings - hardly the worst thing to happen in an interview.
To be honest, Wenger has always been like this, even when playing with The Invincible, but back in the days, we win stuff, so you guys never really complained.
That second half was terrible. Hulls stand in keeper looked super dodgy and we should have been taking shots at him every chance we had, how many did we have in the 2nd half? 3 or 4?
Having said that we played very well until their fake goal and it completely took the wind out of our sails.
Bunch of pussies tbh.
Oh and I'm getting bloody annoyed with Wilshere lying dead on the pitch 10 times a game. FFS man up. Stop making dumb ass tackles if you know you're made of sand.
Have nothing to say about what we saw Sat other than to those who think that Wenger leaving may harm us - Get used to this shit, you've got it for another few years.
The problem for me started after the Invincible season & as some of those players started to leave. We had a blue-print, something that worked for us & cetainly worked in the P.L. However, like many others Wenger became infatuated with the new brand of passing football being shown by Barca. With a young Messi, Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Xavi etc, all of us started to watch C.L. highlights & Spanish football to watch the brilliance of Barca.
Wenger being a fan of the passing game felt this was the way forward, so we see the emphasis moved from power & physicality in midfield to small, nimble players.
However because of his transfer policies, we have only been able to buy poor replicas of the players above & the ONLY way the Barca plan can work is if you have absolute quality in all attacking positions. The difference in the footballing brain of a Xavi or Iniesta compared to those midfielders we've had in the past decade is huge. Only Fabregas would be in their bracket but obviously not close enough according to Barca.
With the possession we enjoy in most games, especially in & around the opponents area, the percentage of chances we create is very poor. Most opponents attacks are started by us losing possession in this area. We are simply not good enough to play "eye of the needle" football, we don't have the quality.
This emphasis on passing your opponents to death also leads to taking your defending for granted. You look at full backs who can bomb on & link up with play rather than full backs who can defend. If you have a team continually losing the ball due to passing errors or lack of movement then you will be prone to the counter attack, with defenders committed upfield - sound familiar!
The other issue is that the small nimble players can go missing in the winter months when even P.L pitches get boggy & the weather has a say.
Wenger wont be told that he doesn't have the ability to get a team playing like Barca, maybe he does, but not unless he buys quality & stops the bargain hunting. Even so, I'm not sure the Barca way would be such a success in English football - the power & pace of the Invincibles is what he should have tried to maintain.
I think we have about 7 or 8 of the 11 who are of the right physical/technical quality but we lack steel at CM and CB.
One of the major issues we have is the manager's reluctance to adapt, his lack of tactical nous and insistance on playing slow tippy tappy through the middle.
With regards to Barca we certainly have players with their physicality because they're not a big team but what I'm saying is that we don't have the technical quality. 80% of what makes a footballer great is he's brain. Messi's brain is controlling his legs & telling his body what it will do next. Xavi & Iniesta may be small but on the ball they already know what they're doing with it before they've touched it. I'm afraid the likes of Rambo, Jack, Santi, Arteta whilst very good technically, simply don't have the footballing brain required to emulate Barca football. We can see it with Sanchez. As good as he is, he still runs we he should pass, his passing is average at best & his decision making is poor - it was not a big loss to Barca.
The tippy tappy passing has not got us very far in the past 10 years & it won't going forward. We need to apply a more modern direct style of play, pressing high up the pitch. The years of teams trying to replicate Barca is over, they will even have to change their style when current players start to retire. They have been lucky through their youth system to produce a team with a style of play that only comes along once in a very long while.
The high tech, tippy-tappy thing may also have been a consequence of the (failed) youth policy the club (Wenger) adopted as an alternative to buying experience when the funds were tight. Younger players aren't as physical. So we've attempting to bring on a bunch of relatively cheap (but still overpaid) youngsters designed to keep the ball away from the opposition and pass them to death, but it didn't work. It's too easy for the brutal teams in the PL to compensate for their lack of footballing ability by kicking their opponents into orbit, part and parcel of the game over here. I wonder how Barca, even at their best, would have coped week-in, week-out in this league, especially if they had been tagged with a weakling, "don't like it up 'em", reputation that the refs were happy to go along with?
Now we're caught in the worst of all places, we can afford to bring the experience in but the whole philosophy is geared towards a system that's probably incompatible with the league we play in. It will take time to change it and realistically it will take another manager to do it. Wenger's not going to start from scratch at the tail end of his career, somebody else will have to do that. If only a face saving solution could be found that saw Wenger kicked upstairs and Bould brought in on a temporary basis to instil the basics of what it takes to win in the PL. Alexis, Ramsey, Jack, Welbeck, Ox, they may not be the biggest but they are tough enough for the league.
To think Wenger used to be slaughtered for his teams picking up too many red cards. Those were the days. More red cards is what we need, resulting from nastier bastards on the pitch. Like all the other teams in this league. Our players wouldn't get injured as much either, if the opposition knew they'd get a swift kick in the bollocks for trying to rough us up.
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