Man City vs Arsenal 26.04.2023 Match reaction and player ratings

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Sorry to interrupt the kumbaya singing (yeah I'm still feeling grumpy), but saw this and couldn't help but share as there are just too many parallels with aspects of the Bucks season and what we've gone through.....and yes, Giannis passionate post match response (start the video around 1.20) is probably the most brilliant I've ever heard a modern athlete be and would give even the most despondent of fans hope..... HOWEVER the discussion the legends have at the end, especially Shaqs views, is more in line with what I would agree with.

My opinion BTW.

[Marc Overmars]

I would say that by definition it is failure. Regardless of what our goal was at the start of the season, it evolved into something else and sadly we’ve failed (barring a miracle) to achieve that. It’s not deep, people just allow themselves to get triggered by phrases like failure, bottled it etc as they’re often used a source of mockery without perspective or context.

I do agree though with the idea that it’s a constant process and people tend to only look at the outcome and ignore the journey. History won’t remember that Arsenal overachieved this season and were hugely entertaining to watch. Yet most Arsenal fans while gutted will still remain satisfied with the season given where we’ve been for years prior to this.

[LDG]

I would say that by definition it is failure. Regardless of what our goal was at the start of the season, it evolved into something else and sadly we’ve failed (barring a miracle) to achieve that. It’s not deep, people just allow themselves to get triggered by phrases like failure, bottled it etc as they’re often used a source of mockery without perspective or context.

I do agree though with the idea that it’s a constant process and people tend to only look at the outcome and ignore the journey. History won’t remember that Arsenal overachieved this season and were hugely entertaining to watch. Yet most Arsenal fans while gutted will still remain satisfied with the season given where we’ve been for years prior to this.

Agree. But if you had your head screwed on, the safe bet was for City tonryn away at some point because, lets face it, money has made perfection or close to, possible. You can’t compete with that.

All we have to look within and say, is learn. Watch what Pep did and learn. You cannot have one plan. You have to have a team ready to change every game

[Letters]

Having De Bruyne and Haaland in the same team is surely cheating.
And they have players sitting on the bench who would walk into our team.
City brought on Mahrez and World Cup winner Alvarez on Wednesday.
The smart money was always on inexperience and lack of squad depth costing us and so it’s proved.
I’m disappointed we didn’t push them harder, the slips recently haven’t been good enough. But City have P13 WL D1 L1 since we were 8 points clear of them. They’re a relentless machine, you have to be basically perfect to beat them.
And for all the slips, there are other games where we have dug out results or won late to turn 1 point in to 3. The big thing which we have to sort out if we want a chance is the fact City have our number. That’s a 12 point swing between us winning both the head to heads and them. Even draws in those two games and we’d be winning the league. It’s become a psychological thing now. They know they’re going to beat us, we know we are going to lose. We have to break that run to have a chance next year.

[mandela8]

Agree. But if you had your head screwed on, the safe bet was for City tonryn away at some point because, lets face it, money has made perfection or close to, possible. You can’t compete with that.

All we have to look within and say, is learn. Watch what Pep did and learn. You cannot have one plan. You have to have a team ready to change every game

Pep changed his system for this game too, remember.
Walker has been out in the cold with Stones or the young boy (can't mind his name) playing RB and inverting from there.
Martinelli is such a threat Pep brought Walker back in for this. THAT is the difference between the two managers. Pep adapts , Arteta doesn't. Not that it always works for Pep, as we've seen him mess it up in Europe...but Arteta doesn't even try. Same set up for each of 4 games without a win. Mental.

[Mac76]

Pep changed his system for this game too, remember.
Walker has been out in the cold with Stones or the young boy (can't mind his name) playing RB and inverting from there.
Martinelli is such a threat Pep brought Walker back in for this. THAT is the difference between the two managers. Pep adapts , Arteta doesn't. Not that it always works for Pep, as we've seen him mess it up in Europe...but Arteta doesn't even try. Same set up for each of 4 games without a win. Mental.

Yup

[Globalgunner]

Arteta is much more a Wenger disciple than a Pep Protégé. Cautious to a calamitous fault. Once he hits on a formula or mix of players that works. He will rinse and repeat until one of the components gets injured or in the case of Xhaka gets enough red or yellow cards to warrant some time out. Next season will not even be half as enthralling as this one was.

[Mac76]

Just take a look at what De Zerbi did today - he left Mitoma, MacAllister, Caicedo and Buonanotte on the bench and Brighton still ran riot, ok it's 'only Wolves' but given we couldn't even beat Saints it shows that a good manager rotates his players and can still get a good result

[mandela8]

Arteta is much more a Wenger disciple than a Pep Protégé. Cautious to a calamitous fault. Once he hits on a formula or mix of players that works. He will rinse and repeat until one of the components gets injured or in the case of Xhaka gets enough red or yellow cards to warrant some time out. Next season will not even be half as enthralling as this one was.

Something Arteta said a long time ago still gives me hope. When talking about the shape of the team when we were playing a rigid 4 2 3 1 he said we didn't have the players /experience to go more progressive. I didn't quite believe him but he did change it to more of a 4 1 2 3. So, I do hope that big purchases like they tried to make in January are what's required to move us forward again to an even more fluid and progressive system. Depaite his faith in players like White, Xhaka and Saka I just don't see how he can see what the rest of us do, in terms of obvious improvements. Obviously most of you are blinded by favoritism in some of that but hopefully there's objectivity within the club that isn't present within the ignorance of most of the fan base/this board.

[mandela8]

Sorry to interrupt the kumbaya singing (yeah I'm still feeling grumpy), but saw this and couldn't help but share as there are just too many parallels with aspects of the Bucks season and what we've gone through.....and yes, Giannis passionate post match response (start the video around 1.20) is probably the most brilliant I've ever heard a modern athlete be and would give even the most despondent of fans hope..... HOWEVER the discussion the legends have at the end, especially Shaqs views, is more in line with what I would agree with.

My opinion BTW.

That was a great response, man. Giannis an absolute G.

Definitely offers a great perspective.



Go Heat!!!