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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander View Post
    Just seen it all on MOTD.

    What an utter joke. If this is what football has become, then Im out. Not that I really give much to Arsenal these days, used to go 10 times a season at least, but prices got higher and higher, and it ended up costing me at least £100 per game with trains/tickets/food etc. I used to enjoy it, but it just is not the same these days. When you lose like yesterday, with `gamesmanship` or cheating as I call it, whats the point?
    Agreed, it's gotten to the point where I'd rather not go and watch it at home or not watch it at all. I've worked with a season ticket holder for a while, and I can get tickets for most games nowadays if I ask, but it's just a waste of money and effort.

    I'll probably only go to 2-3 games this season

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    Chelsea were well on top when the sending off came and looked the more likely to win the game, we've seen it before many times and our record is dreadful which suggests we would have lost as we always do, in 45 minutes we barely looked capable of winning despite resting half the team.

    For me it deflects away from the fact we've once again lost another game against Chelsea and failed to win after the midweek disaster, it's been a poor start to the season, we're not good enough. Yes Costa should have had a red card, but bearing in mind he didn't we paid the price for been stupid rather than using that anger to win the game. Players of old would have loved to play against him and would have got their own back without going down to 10 (he's know for playig like this so you have to be pretty stupid to fall for it now) and without losing at least, once again we couldn't do it.

    What's clear again this season (and was before the season started) is that we'll be nowhere when the big prizes are handed out and there's only one man at fault for this, the manager, you can't hide behind excuses after what we'ce seen this season.

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    I think people are getting a bit too wound up over a routine event. The chavs cheating their way to a result? Big wow. That's what they do. Mike Dean being a shit ref? Wow, it's Mike Dean, what do you expect. I won't be giving up watching the game because a chav's a chav and a Dean's a Dean. I'll give up if I ever end up being part of a "sport" that has no real fans left in it because they have all pissed off. That'll be the day to call it a day. The real fans need to stick around, not be forced out by plastics or scumbags like Costa or whores for hire like Ashton or incompetent tinpot dictators like Dean. I'm sticking around for the return game.

    Yes - the ref will be incompetent for that one too. Yes we'll pick up twice the number of bookings as the saintly chavs. Yes Costa will cheat. Yes Maureen will try to make himself the centre of attention in a vanity contest with Dean (or whatever other coward is rolled out who is paid to be a professional but shirks the duty). Because the real sport then becomes the possibility of smashing the ball in their net regardless. And why should I even care if a bunch of overpaid, over-hyped kids who don't know who I am and don't care prevail against the odds? Because that lesson and that possibility translates to everyday life where we have the same cowards and scumbags directly affecting our lives and the playing field is just as tipped. That's the challenge. I don't want the club to become Maureen either, just as I don't want to become the scumbag to achieve. The challenge is the same as it has always been, call it good versus evil if you want, I call it honest endeavour and struggle against those who don't have the balls to play it straight down the line and have to find nefarious ways to simulate being a man.

    I think it's a bit much the stick Gabriel is getting. So he got conned by a cheat, it happens. Provided it doesn't happen next time then let this be a valuable lesson at a non-crucial stage of the season. Better it happened now than in a cup final or in a game that decides a title. Gabriel was led into making a mistake. He couldn't control his passion but at lest he has passion. Let's remember these so-called journalists need to find ways to apologise for the filth they wash themselves in. So they'll distract and misdirect and show you the left hand while the right hand is palming their 30 pieces of silver. They don't want to talk about the referee's lack of professionalism, they don't want to say that word "cheat", they want to tell you to look at player X as an example to kids whilst at the same time proclaiming Costa's win at all costs attitude is worthy. Well Ben Johnson won at all costs, so did Lance Armstrong. So did that Gatlin bloke they were all queuing up to abuse. That's the camp their Maureen and Costa play in and these so-called journos don't have the balls to admit it because they need their little fantasy world to persist so they can carry on scuttling around for the crumbs falling off the table. Don't listen to those cunts, don't let them hiss their fucked up vision of sport in your ear.

    If there are any winners in our team then they surely have enough incentive now to make that return game a banker, despite the odds. And if we don't have any winners in the team then we will have to live with that fact too.

    Btw, let's not forget about those useless linesmen yesterday - every bit as bad as the ref and in some ways worse as they have left Dean to take all the credit. It was the linesman who "missed" everything Costa did in the box, it was the linesman who missed his copycat foul later in the game, it was the linesmen who selectively raised their flags for offside. They should stand up and take the credit that's due.
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    Chelsea were well on top when the sending off came
    Simply wrong.
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    It is wrong. No one was on top. The game had 0-0 written all over it.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    So...what do you think I'm 'defending' him against?!

    I was neither defending him or criticizing him. I'm just sick of football generally. It's not a sport any more. I like to think there isn't any corruption in the sport but when there's so much money around you kinda think there probably is and then when things like yesterday happen...what's the point?

    Zim's said we'd have lost anyway. Well, maybe. But the point is we'll never know. From what I've heard we were holding our own until we had a player sent off. If we'd lost with it 11 on 11 then fine, I can accept that. But when the cheating is so blatant then what's the point in it all? Had we beaten Chelsea they would almost have been out of the title race already - it seems so contrived that with us looking like we could get a result (by which I mean at least a point) there's suddenly a refereeing 'mistake' which makes a defeat almost inevitable. It keeps the narrative going that Chelsea are resurgent, Mourinho is a genius

    Balls to it all, the only thing to do if you're going to follow football at all is go back to grass roots. The football might be a bit rubbish in local teams but at least it's real, at least it's still a sport where the best, not the richest, team wins.
    agree with your points above, except we had started to clearly hand the initiative to chelsea before that incident. we did not take advantage and punish them when we got our chances and managed to breach their defence, which is a shame but it's a fact that incident put paid to any competitive match taking place. i'm cynical and firmly believe there is massive corruption in football, with officials bought and paid for in some games ....it's just almost impossible to prove it with concrete evidence.

    what i'm saying is we surely can't use yesterdays events to somehow exonerate wenget's failings over the last few years. if anything knowing the dice is loaded, we really ought to look for a manager who will maximise all resources and influence at his disposal to get results.

    but as everyone, ....well almost everyone has said .....fuck it all. I'm going off the football too, gonna enjoy the rugby world cup and start watching the Manor Park Boozers on sundays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Chelsea were well on top when the sending off came and looked the more likely to win the game, we've seen it before many times and our record is dreadful which suggests we would have lost as we always do, in 45 minutes we barely looked capable of winning despite resting half the team.

    For me it deflects away from the fact we've once again lost another game against Chelsea and failed to win after the midweek disaster, it's been a poor start to the season, we're not good enough. Yes Costa should have had a red card, but bearing in mind he didn't we paid the price for been stupid rather than using that anger to win the game. Players of old would have loved to play against him and would have got their own back without going down to 10 (he's know for playig like this so you have to be pretty stupid to fall for it now) and without losing at least, once again we couldn't do it.

    What's clear again this season (and was before the season started) is that we'll be nowhere when the big prizes are handed out and there's only one man at fault for this, the manager, you can't hide behind excuses after what we'ce seen this season.


    I hate Costa, but I hate the fact that we're so predictable now.

    Leicester away after thé North London derby. They might teach us a thing or two about how to play good football.
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    Must admit I'm surprised at the reaction of the footballing public, at first I thought we were going to be slaughtered but it seems like most people have acknowledged how much of a cunt Diego Costa is. I guess this kind of gamesmanship will always be frowned upon in this country, even my Chav mate said he'd probably despise him if he played for another club.

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    The media are mad over Costa so there is a good chance he may get a three match ban himself.

    I guess I will mention it again since it hasn't been acknowledged by anyone else, why wasn't Ivanovic attacked? Sanchez is just a thick footballer and it is frustrating to see him cutting into the middle of the pitch to run into 2 or 3 players when the entire premiership have been isolating their wingers against Ivanovic. Poor from Sanchez and from Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    The media are mad over Costa so there is a good chance he may get a three match ban himself.

    I guess I will mention it again since it hasn't been acknowledged by anyone else, why wasn't Ivanovic attacked? Sanchez is just a thick footballer and it is frustrating to see him cutting into the middle of the pitch to run into 2 or 3 players when the entire premiership have been isolating their wingers against Ivanovic. Poor from Sanchez and from Wenger.
    Ivanovic was fouling Alexis every time, but the ref was doing fuck all about it. In the first few minutes Alexis skinned him a couple of times, so Ivanovic went to plan B and just hauled him down whenever they were one on one. Dean ignored it, effectively plugging one of the chav's primary weaknesses. Instead he focused on that naughty Santi who committed two fouls in the match and was sent off as a result. Terrible officiating that influenced the game on so many levels.
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