Match reaction vs. Everton

[LDG]

That's pretty warped. Wenger didn't invent this style of football.

Swansea, Southampton, Liverpool and Everton are clear examples of teams that can play an attractive brand of football and don't have the same sort of problems we have breaking down more organised teams. It's no excuse. We're not even being hampered by teams parking the bus. They're just coming at us and getting points.

We have absolutely no pace whatsoever in our breaking, our build up, recovery or passing. It's all so pedestrian!

This is why we're getting tucked up, because we're just so slow at everything.

The manager is completely to blame here, because you can't keep watching your team taking an extra one, two or three passes to get it out wide, when one ball would suffice. Or playing a team that is as flat as a pancake with no runners or movers in the team.

The balance of the side he's currently relying on is shockingly unbalanced. Back to the no width, no pace, no ANYTHING!

The one striker, who is already on his holidays, is starved of any service, and our playmakers, don't playmake. They just pass it square.

When we get turned, there is no recovery pace (see Lukaku's goal).

We're a tired, tired team, with very obvious tactics, which don't change game to game.

Fucking awful we were yesterday. Fucking shit.

[Marc Overmars]

We just have to hope and pray we've got enough left in the tank to finish 4th and win the cup because on current evidence the lights are on but no one is home.

Wenger's reputation is really on the line now.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's pretty warped. Wenger didn't invent this style of football.

Swansea, Southampton, Liverpool and Everton are clear examples of teams that can play an attractive brand of football and don't have the same sort of problems we have breaking down more organised teams. It's no excuse. We're not even being hampered by teams parking the bus. They're just coming at us and getting points.

What the hell?

I was saying the football we used to play was at a level higher than we've seen since. Is anyone genuinely going to argue this is not the case? Because the game has changed in such negative ways. I'm not saying certain teams aren't capable of playing good football - nowhere did I say that. I'm also not claiming we are playing good football now, we aren't. What I'm saying is the modern game is negative, less entertaining, probably because so much is at stake financially. Although I think Maureen actually enjoys the shite he serves up.

And mods - if you are going to remove my posts then please remove the post by the twat who prompted my response. Hopefully you're not asking me to reply politely to twattish messages, because that will never happen. If boys who think they are big want to play then let everyone else play.

[Power n Glory]

We have absolutely no pace whatsoever in our breaking, our build up, recovery or passing. It's all so pedestrian!

This is why we're getting tucked up, because we're just so slow at everything.

The manager is completely to blame here, because you can't keep watching your team taking an extra one, two or three passes to get it out wide, when one ball would suffice. Or playing a team that is as flat as a pancake with no runners or movers in the team.

The balance of the side he's currently relying on is shockingly unbalanced. Back to the no width, no pace, no ANYTHING!

The one striker, who is already on his holidays, is starved of any service, and our playmakers, don't playmake. They just pass it square.

When we get turned, there is no recovery pace (see Lukaku's goal).

We're a tired, tired team, with very obvious tactics, which don't change game to game.

Fucking awful we were yesterday. Fucking shit.

I read Arseblog, Le Grove and Gunnersblog this morning and they all concluded the same thing. It’s really poor and Wenger must see what’s going wrong but he’s being pig headed. I don’t think it’s down to a lack of desire from the players. They have everything to play for. Confidence must be rock bottom but they’re getting nothing back from the manager. It’s the same approach each game and those words in Fergie’s book about Wenger’s arrogance really ring true on this occasion. It’s like he’s trying to prove something.

[Dein-machine]

When we play with Flamini & Arteta - it basically meant yesterday our goals from open play had to come from Rosicky, Podolski, Cazorla & Giroud - 2 of these are past their best, 1 needs better players around him on his wavelength & the other one is shit.
We went again to be negative, you cannot play Flams & Arts & expect to be anything else. When you play negatively & get caught out by going a goal or 2 down you then make the changes to try & score - we don't. Its like we're playing to keep the score down. Brings on Ox right at the end & we hit the bar because he drives at defenders. Whilst Wenger can claim a tactical reason not the start him, he cannot defend not bringing him on as soon as the second goal went in, don't even wait for half time. Wenger simply doesn't have this decision making in him because it proves he started with the wrong selection - he hates being proved wrong.

[Letters]

With 9 games to go we were 4 points off the top and had a game in hand.
We surely can't be that rubbish and while we've not always been pretty to watch this season we have been effective.

I think the point about being tired might be a big factor, we're not got a big squad, we're too reliant on a few key players and we're not able to rotate as much as we need to if we're going to challenge properly over the whole season.

[Dein-machine]

What the hell?

I was saying the football we used to play was at a level higher than we've seen since. Is anyone genuinely going to argue this is not the case? Because the game has changed in such negative ways. I'm not saying certain teams aren't capable of playing good football - nowhere did I say that. I'm also not claiming we are playing good football now, we aren't. What I'm saying is the modern game is negative, less entertaining, probably because so much is at stake financially. Although I think Maureen actually enjoys the shite he serves up.

And mods - if you are going to remove my posts then please remove the post by the twat who prompted my response. Hopefully you're not asking me to reply politely to twattish messages, because that will never happen. If boys who think they are big want to play then let everyone else play.

Oh dear - think NQ's cracking - does anyone think after yesterdays garbage he might have put his rose tinted glasses down on the table & thought "shit - the others may have a point here"

[fakeyank]

We have absolutely no pace whatsoever in our breaking, our build up, recovery or passing. It's all so pedestrian!

This is why we're getting tucked up, because we're just so slow at everything.

The manager is completely to blame here, because you can't keep watching your team taking an extra one, two or three passes to get it out wide, when one ball would suffice. Or playing a team that is as flat as a pancake with no runners or movers in the team.

The balance of the side he's currently relying on is shockingly unbalanced. Back to the no width, no pace, no ANYTHING!

The one striker, who is already on his holidays, is starved of any service, and our playmakers, don't playmake. They just pass it square.

When we get turned, there is no recovery pace (see Lukaku's goal).

We're a tired, tired team, with very obvious tactics, which don't change game to game.

Fucking awful we were yesterday. Fucking shit.

Amen brother!

[Niall_Quinn]

I read Arseblog, Le Grove and Gunnersblog this morning and they all concluded the same thing. It’s really poor and Wenger must see what’s going wrong but he’s being pig headed. I don’t think it’s down to a lack of desire from the players. They have everything to play for. Confidence must be rock bottom but they’re getting nothing back from the manager. It’s the same approach each game and those words in Fergie’s book about Wenger’s arrogance really ring true on this occasion. It’s like he’s trying to prove something.

There comes a time for everyone, even Wenger, when pigheaded goes out the window because you have to rescue a serious situation. It's inconceivable a professional would sit there and take hammering after hammering and think any minute now it will all change. It's not a reasonable or realistic theory to be putting forward. I really don't see why the players get such an easy ride, barring the usual targets who are no worse than the rest. Arteta being a prime example. Questions need to be asked about the desire of some of these guys. Like Cazorla and Podolski who routinely throw their full backs under the bus. Or Giroud when the ball doesn't arrive fast enough so he gives up on trying to find the run or the space and just stands there like a lemon. Or Monreal when time and again he leaves the space and gets badly exposed and doesn't have the pace to compensate. Does he not see things happening on the pitch at all? And Rosicky when he has space, looks up, find his man, and passes to the opposition. Or Sagna when he has time to put the cross in and balloons it. There's a fair degree of panic on display from this lot when teams come to close us down. They lack composure and yet supposedly this is the sort of stuff we practise on the training ground over and over. How many times has our passing gone to hell this season? Passing used to be the one thing we could manage with some degree of proficiency. If the argument is Wenger refuses to change you have to then assume he's using the same methods to train the players. And if he's using the same methods and up until recently we could pass a ball, then what's up with this lot? You can say yes, Wenger signed them, so he takes responsibility for that. But what about the responsibility a player should take for not being able to pass the ball 5 yards? We don't play the same tactics every game either - that's just one of those cosy little criticisms that doesn't hold up if you watch the games. Sometimes we press, sometimes we don't. Sometimes we play high, sometimes we don't. Now if you're saying we seem to vary it in the wrong way for the given opponent, it does seem to be that way at least some of the time. Other times we get it spot on though.

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh dear - think NQ's cracking - does anyone think after yesterdays garbage he might have put his rose tinted glasses down on the table & thought "shit - the others may have a point here"

You're being one dimensional. I don't judge anything over one game. My argument has never been we've been playing good football this season. We haven't. But there's an idea going around the "modern" game has passed Wenger by. Maybe it has. All I'm saying is it's a shame because the modern game is shite. Now as to you trying to put words in my mouth, let me be clear - no, I didn't think the game yesterday was fabulous. Maybe a few on here desperate to slag the club at all costs took a perverse pleasure in the nature of the result, if not the result itself, but not me.