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    Yeh, 5 years in and we have peaked twice in seasons 3 & 4.
    This should have been the year.

    There is still a chance it could be, but I would be surprised if it was and we should not be in that situation.

    That is not good enough as we cannot afford another 6 - 10 years of rebuilding and trying to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippy View Post
    Yep.This.
    Liverpool have won the league in early January because Arteta is a rookie manager who has spent a fortune and won fuck all (please no one embarrass themselves by mentioning the FACup). The Kroenke family should not give him any more money to waste and start looking for a proper manager.
    Sorry but the FAC is a significant trophy which our club has won more times than any other so to discount it, whatever one thinks of Arteta, is ridiculous

    Give him his due FFS, he won that in a very pragmatic way and overcame some very big teams to do it

    but what's happened since is a failure to build on our attacking options at the expense of stacks of defensive players, also to strangle our creativity within an overly-regimented and stodgy playing style

    and ofc there's the whole inverted LB rubbish which caused Zin to be inflicted upon us while Andy Robertson shows how it's done at Livepool week in week out

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    Yeh, 5 years in and we have peaked twice in seasons 3 & 4.
    This should have been the year.

    There is still a chance it could be, but I would be surprised if it was and we should not be in that situation.

    That is not good enough as we cannot afford another 6 - 10 years of rebuilding and trying to win.
    I refer you to my post in the match thread. We are actually in a very similar position to we were at this stage last season, and I'd argue we've played harder games this year.
    It is feeling like a bit of a slog so far, but I think it's a bit too early to throw in the towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I refer you to my post in the match thread. We are actually in a very similar position to we were at this stage last season, and I'd argue we've played harder games this year.
    It is feeling like a bit of a slog so far, but I think it's a bit too early to throw in the towel.
    This transfer window will decide it, if they get 2-3 players in then there's just a chance

    I have to say that given it's unlikely to happen before this weekend, we're about to be dumped out of the League Cup and FA Cup in pretty short order - I know some don't care, but we need to win something to keep some of our players on board, plus it will heap pressure on Arteta to get something from the League and CL this season

    I'm a bit mixed on the league and probably am happy with top 4 - the worst scenario is if we finish just one or two points behind Liverpool and so it all comes down to those PGMOL c**** and their biased decisions, it will be pretty hard to take

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    we're about to be dumped out of the League Cup and FA Cup in pretty short order
    Are we, though? We're capable of beating the sides in both cups.

    I'm a bit mixed on the league and probably am happy with top 4
    I'm absolutely not happy with that and I'll be massively pissed off if it's Liverpool who capitalise on City's malaise and not us.
    Title or bust for me but I'm not as dismissive of the FA Cup as some on here seem to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Are we, though? We're capable of beating the sides in both cups.
    LC - We probably won't have Odegaard, Havertz or even Nwaneri for at least the home game - it will be a massacre given Newcastle's current form

    FAC - OK so I'd expect us to win the Man Ure game if we didn't have such a depleted squad but in the circumstances it could go either way - if Amorim has half a brain and starts with both Garnacho and Diallo it will be a struggle IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I refer you to my post in the match thread. We are actually in a very similar position to we were at this stage last season, and I'd argue we've played harder games this year.
    It is feeling like a bit of a slog so far, but I think it's a bit too early to throw in the towel.
    I agree, I still think there is a chance of us doing it but by god we are making it the hardest job in the world when it really shouldn't be.

    We have played some of the toughest games, but then we have also dropped points in some of the easier ones too which is where the problems arise.

    We have already drawn more games than we did the whole of last season.

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    Let’s be reasonable and realistic here. There are two pieces of silverware that count as significant and only two and those are the League title and the European cup/Champions League. The rest are either window dressing or an admission of failure that we haven’t been able to compete for the other two.

    Clubs like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich view their own domestic cups in such a way, and winning four fa cups in the last decade does not even begin to ameliorate the fact that we haven’t won our domestic league in over twenty years.

    And as for the European cup…we’ve had to stomach the fact that fucking scumbag club Chelsea have won it twice….whilst we were being sent packing before the 1/4 finals on numerous occasions

    If Arteta has brought us forward from where we were five years ago, that’s great and everything but Neil Kinnock brought Labour back from the brink and still lost two general elections. At some point you have put ruthlessness and ambition above sentiment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    This transfer window will decide it, if they get 2-3 players in then there's just a chance

    I have to say that given it's unlikely to happen before this weekend, we're about to be dumped out of the League Cup and FA Cup in pretty short order - I know some don't care, but we need to win something to keep some of our players on board, plus it will heap pressure on Arteta to get something from the League and CL this season

    I'm a bit mixed on the league and probably am happy with top 4 - the worst scenario is if we finish just one or two points behind Liverpool and so it all comes down to those PGMOL c**** and their biased decisions, it will be pretty hard to take
    Agreed mostly, except I think the PL should have been the main target this season.

    Also that last bit is where I will disagree. It will come down to our games of poor play where we have been way below the standards that Arteta set the last two seasons and his ridiculous line ups and incessant tinkering with players and positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Are we, though? We're capable of beating the sides in both cups.


    I'm absolutely not happy with that and I'll be massively pissed off if it's Liverpool who capitalise on City's malaise and not us.
    Title or bust for me but I'm not as dismissive of the FA Cup as some on here seem to be.
    Same here, PL was absolutely the main priority this season for me.

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