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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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    He'll be here next season which is a good thing. Hopefully put him back on the right where he was working out well before.

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    If United are offering a lot for him, I'd bite their hands off

    Player who doesn't fit our style and doesn't have the technical passing ability and football brain to succeed here. Stick him on the right by all means if you want to slow us down on the counter attack.

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    He would do well under Mourinho, considering he likes players with good engines.

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    Ramsey is going nowhere

    Why do you dislike quality players. Especially for a wasteman like Schneiderlin.

    Ramsey is a quality player and will have a big season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    Ramsey is going nowhere

    Why do you dislike quality players. Especially for a wasteman like Schneiderlin.

    Ramsey is a quality player and will have a big season.

    I don't personally want Schneiderlin with Coquelin, Elneny and Xhaka we don't need him. Ramsey is surplus to requirements and his passing and speed and ability to bring players into the game is nowhere near good enough to consider keeping him. He's a luxury player who too often gets caught too far up the pitch and allows our counter attacking football to break down.

    I am mixed on whether we should get rid of Wilshere as well, his quality is not in doubt his temprement and fitness definitely are though.

    I'd like to get money for Ramsey go in big for a centre back and use remaining money for centre forward and winger (get rid of Walcott as well).

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    Ramsey is our best athlete in central midfield. He helps in defense and attack and his runs are chaotic for opposing defenses. He is a very unique player and there are not many like him in the game. While not as good, he is in that Pogba/Vidal style of central midfielder.

    He struggled last year playing with a genuine bum in Flamini and he gets downplayed for it. Wenger won't sell him and he shouldn't. He is a class player who Arsenal fans don't appreciate nearly as much as they should.

    This season with Xhaka and hopefully another CM, I expect Ramsey to take his rightful place as one of the best CMs in the league again.

    This summer for Wales, the guy has been their best player and the heartbeat of that team.

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    I still like Ramsey - I just don't see him as a central midfielder in our current 4231 formation. If we stick with this shape then, for me, he's one of the attacking 3 - his unpredictable, marauding style is an asset in one of those roles, but I just can't see it as anything other than a liability if he's one of the 2 who are sat in front of the defence, controlling the game. It's just unfortunate for him that he finds himself in the same team as Özil, because I could see him working really well as a different option behind the striker (and especially with a striker like Giroud). I still think that's an option that's worth exploring in some games: Ramsey behind Giroud, and Özil on the right - might not be where Özil would choose to play, but I can't help but feel that he links up better with Giroud himself when he's getting down the flanks, and firing in those laser-guided crosses and passes for first-time finishes? Seriously, what's the point of having Özil relentlessly sliding in through-balls in open play when your CF is Giroud - it's a waste of both players' time.

    (Obviously with a different type of striker then Özil goes back in the No.10 role - anything else would be a criminal waste of a special talent.)

    I guess the other option is to go 433 very now and then? That would probably be a good fit for Ramsey, Wilshere and Coq. 4231 feels like it's built more for Xhaka, Cazorla and Elneny (maybe Wilshere too, depending on how disciplined he can be).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Martial yes, the others? Fuck no.

    He's not going anywhere.
    Yup. He's going to find it hard in the season coming if he wants to play regularly though.....particularly if we sign a wide attacker. Hopefully that spurns him on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Maybe this has been said before, but we need a striker. Preferably not one called Sanogo's Brother.
    Any truth in the Lukako story? Hope so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    I still like Ramsey - I just don't see him as a central midfielder in our current 4231 formation. If we stick with this shape then, for me, he's one of the attacking 3 - his unpredictable, marauding style is an asset in one of those roles, but I just can't see it as anything other than a liability if he's one of the 2 who are sat in front of the defence, controlling the game. It's just unfortunate for him that he finds himself in the same team as Özil, because I could see him working really well as a different option behind the striker (and especially with a striker like Giroud). I still think that's an option that's worth exploring in some games: Ramsey behind Giroud, and Özil on the right - might not be where Özil would choose to play, but I can't help but feel that he links up better with Giroud himself when he's getting down the flanks, and firing in those laser-guided crosses and passes for first-time finishes? Seriously, what's the point of having Özil relentlessly sliding in through-balls in open play when your CF is Giroud - it's a waste of both players' time.

    (Obviously with a different type of striker then Özil goes back in the No.10 role - anything else would be a criminal waste of a special talent.)

    I guess the other option is to go 433 very now and then? That would probably be a good fit for Ramsey, Wilshere and Coq. 4231 feels like it's built more for Xhaka, Cazorla and Elneny (maybe Wilshere too, depending on how disciplined he can be).
    Wouldn't mind seeing Ramsey played behind Giroud. I don't think Ozil has to be shackled to the number 10 role. I don't even think he plays like a typical 10 and reminds me more of a playmaking CM. I believe he could still create from further back of the field. It's just a question of his defensive contribution and probably why he's played further forward.

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