We spent £70m on Ozil?Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
You're smarter than this, NQ.
We spent £70m on Ozil?
You're smarter than this, NQ.
£32m net overall spend in the summer.
Leaving £40m+ which could have helped us walk to the title.
We could've got Higuain for £28m, long before Napoli got the Cavani money, but he was haggling and only wanted to pay £22m max.
Exactly right.
I've had enough of the next summer, next season is when it begins scenario, heard too much of this BS for years to believe it, this season was last chance saloon and in my eyes Wenger is failing, he needed to show us something different, unfortunately he hasn't, we've seen this before. We've been at the top at this time of year before only to watch us collapse when it matters, failing to beat the top teams time and time again when it matters, this season is no different to a few years ago except for the fact we have no strikeforce now.
He's still obsessed with midfielders, still doesn't motivate his team, still doesn't sign the players we need in the positions needed, still makes illogical decisions, still isn't proactive or even reactive during matches.
What's actually changed? Well you might argue the big money spending has, however after losing 8-2 to Man U a few years back we also went on a big money spree panic buying 5 or so players at the end of August, the only difference this time is we spent it on one player, we still failed to sign the players we needed in the preceding 3 months.
So yeah I haven't really seen much change overall. Time is up for Wenger now, I'm not personally wanting to her anything about next summer, next season etc, if he doesn't deliver this season it's game over from my point of view, he's not changed his ways so it's win or bust now.
Last edited by Özim; 13-02-2014 at 09:05 PM.
You guys should manage our club, we would win the treble every season
One things for sure it would be more exciting than it is now! Plus we might actually see signings come in to solve problem areas.
Wenger just doesn't get it, it's all about midfield, if he could have a team full of central midfielders he would.
Sometimes you just have to throw your hands in the air and give up. I have. Some of us it seems are more concerned with keeping up the illusion of competing for trophies than actually doing that. This is what Wenger guarantees, a pretence. He knows winning is hard and so prefers to avoid it as winning becomes a greater challenge to maintain than simply competing. Hence Wenger even in his pomp, could never retain the PL.I doubt if any club in the top 5 of the top 4 leagues in Europe, ie EPL, la liga, Italian Serie A and Bundesliga. Has kept it's manager, only Arsenal, despite the barren years. What has it profitted Us? Only in our balance sheet, not on the pitch where we are on a small circular loop of top 4 and CL last 16 places. Arsene fears a challenge, while top clubs and managers relish it. Even successful managers like Pep, want a change, to make a name. Arsene just wants to keep getting paid. He won't t leave because he could be found out.He buys Ozil, when he really needed Higuin, but his pride was hurt buy not being able to get him on a cheap, albeit agreed price. What does that matter when it's not your money. I recall when he bought Diarra from Chelsea some years back. He was so excited, not by the player but because he only paid 3m for him......We all know how that ended and for all the fluff about Chelsea and City's billions, I Thank God for them, because without those 2 and Wenger's indolence , we would probably be looking at a 10 year unbeaten United trophy romp. 10 years,can you imagine what a miserable world that would be to live in, with the fawning press and their insufferably conceited fans swaggering all over the place8 years ago when Wenger was asked why he didn't buy Ribery, his answer was. WHERE WOULD I PLAY HIM.? Doh!. This when Ribery was nailed on as a Pires replacement. SHEESH.
Last edited by Globalgunner; 13-02-2014 at 09:23 PM.
You guys should manage our club we would not win a thing in 50 years. Is that you Arsene.?. Stop hiding under the name JONASTCYou guys should manage our club, we would win the treble every season
I'm just waiting for someone to say the funds aren't being made available to Arsene!
Around and around we go!
Ah, so ends the debate and on to the personal stuff. Didn't take long.We spent £70m on Ozil?
You're smarter than this, NQ.
If signing Ozil didn't excite people then they are hard to excite. We tried for other players too, didn't get them. Plenty was said about that at the time. Wenger didn't spend the whole £70mill, but we spent £42mill on one player. How is that the same old Arsenal and how can people seriously claim that's not a significant shift? I was probably the loudest voice shouting against the board and the manager's financial policies. Then they proved me wrong with a massive outlay on a genuinely world class addition to the squad. When are others going to give up on the obviously nonsense argument that things are the same as they have always been? True, we haven't done EVERYTHING in one hit, is that what people are having a problem with? True as well, Wenger continues to perplex us with some of his decision making. It's frustrating. But considering these guys are starting to deliver what they promised all along then why will some of the fans not give them a chance to proceed? Not only that but we are still competing in this title race. We have stumbled but only to the same degree as our opposition. We may be fucking up against direct rivals, but the opposition are fucking up against relegation candidates FFS. If Wenger is so shit then how shit are Maureen and Pellegrini? How much cash will those guys have to throw at buying the league before people notice the return on their investment is a tiny fraction compared to ours?This year we are beginning to see something we have been planning for some time, which is the escalation in our financial firepower, said Gazidis.
Im talking about an extra £70million of additional, high-margin revenue which we will be able to use.
We have a certain amount which weve held in reserve and we also have new revenue streams coming on board. All of these things mean we can do some things which would excite you.
I'm not excusing Wenger's team selection or his tactics or the form of Wilshere or any of the other factors some here are gleefully honing in on. What I'm saying is we've done better than expected on the pitch, we're doing marvellously well off the pitch. What's so intolerable about sticking behind the club at this key moment when all the shit we have put up with starts to unwind in our favour? One of the camps is going to look bloody stupid come the summer and in subsequent years. Either we've been had, in which case that will generate a lot of anger, or what the board and manager have been working towards for 10 years will yield results. I'd rather run the risk of looking a fool for backing the team than trashing the team in advance by studiously ignoring the very evident changes that have been taking place. We haven't done it all in one hit, true. Is that in any way realistic? Not really. But the momentum is forward. Some moan when we go forward and moan when we go back. Some want to blow it up at the last minute, almost a last ditch desperation to be proved right. In reality there are lots of toys from lots of prams being thrown by lots of spoiled kids. Here we are, on the verge of stepping up to the big stage, having done it without financial doping, a point off the lead, big games in Europe coming up, players like Ozil on the pitch. Most fans would give their right arm but some of ours will only go as far as sticking two fingers in the air. And while most of them will be gushing if things keep moving ahead, there will still be those who moan. They'll always find something. It's boring.
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