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Thread: Ozil - Do we need him?

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    Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
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    I didn't say it was the same role, it would be laughable even for you to suggest Ramsey is capable of the same level of pass making as Ozil.
    What amuses me is that I know you think Ramsey is bang average as well, yet you're prepared to put him in the team above Ozil or try and shoe horn Ozil onto the flanks which Wenger did in his first season and it was why we often didn't see the best from him until his second season when he was positioned centrally.

    I read the article I just didn't agree with it, Giroud played no better with Griezmann than he did with Ozil. And although I don't think Giroud is as awful as is made out, he's for the most part a flat track bully who has no big game mentality. You think that of Ozil, I disagree.

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    It would help if you read and stopped the armchair psychoanalysis. Why do I get the feeling you desperate to try and prove a point other than football?

    Try to follow.

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    Or we could put Ramsey behind him? I could see that working well too (and it may even be what we need to get Ramsey's mojo back)?
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    Ramsey or Sanchez behind Giroud seems like it could work. I wouldn't mind seeing how that plays out and I'm not against Ozil being played wide either if we set up that way.
    Following?

    I'm pretty open to trying whatever brings the best out of the players and think it's foolish to persist with a system that doesn't work -Giroud/Ozil combo. Does that make sense? The right pairing can help bring out the best in both players. Ramsey is another player that looked better playing in a different role during the Euros so I'm prepared to see how he'd work playing closer to Giroud but not in a 3 man striker set up. That's not saying it will work for sure but if you've been following my posts, I've always said I can't bear another season of watching the same set up knowing it's going fail.

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    Seems like it to me.

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    Was outstanding again.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Missed the game. Was it a vintage Ozil performance? Can't tell from the highlights. Didn't get the best connection with his goal and got a bit lucky buy the turn and run to make it was excellent.

    But if following the debate, I certainly wouldn't say Sanchez or Santi are a problem.

    Also, Mac and Doug both of you should hold back on the wumming considering the constant jabs I've seen you guys have made about Walcott. Another big game performance but all of our best players should be showing up for a game like this.

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    Yeah not surprised you ended up mentioning Theo. You tend to always do. And why should I hold back? If I am proven ridiculously wrong about how Theo has been then as an Arsenal fan, why would that hurt?

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    Considering how long Theo has been at the club and how long I've been on GW, is that odd? I mention Wenger a lot too. Theo's performances and how's he's best used has always been a bone of contention. But it doesn't hurt at all if you're proven wrong. I'm just picking out the double standard when I see it especially when I've seen you praise other players for almost doing the same thing.

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    As much as I rate Ozil and I do, I don't think yesterday proved a lot, the Chelsea defence was so amateurish and the midfield so lacking in commitment that Denilson could have looked like a world beater against them.

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    Were you working for BT yesterday by any chance?

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    I'm not criticising our performance at all, the players all did what they needed to do and did it well. To say Chelsea made that job very easy is no reflection on us at all.

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