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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    Agreed.

    I don't think it should be overlooked the effect his fitness has had this season.

    After a solid pre-season he really hit the ground running. He is faster, sharper, stronger, and his conditioning is phenomenal.
    The upshot is, he's finally playing with the confidence of knowing his body will do what he asks of it.
    He always had the technique, now the physical is pretty much optimal and the mental isn't a million miles behind.

    You can see certain parallels to where Jack is now and where Ramsey was a year ago.
    With any luck, and if he works like a a bastard, Jack should be capable of a similar transformational leap.
    The other thing that's worth bearing in mind with Jack [beyond regaining his fitness] is that the current team is now quite a bit different to the last one he played in. Before his injury, he was in a midfield with Fabregas and Song, and had van Persie, Nasri and Walcott in front of him - in the side he's come back into this season, however, Walcott is the only one of those 5 that remains, and even he's been out since september. It's probably going to take him a while to find his place in this new look side (although hopefully not too long - the way he linked up with Cazorla and Giroud for that goal against Norwich bodes well)...

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    Comparisons with Gazza worry me because of how that turned out! He never fulfilled the potential had, but he does have some mental illness which made him unmanageable. I don't think Jack does, I think he's just a bit of an idiot. But he's young and will hopefully grow out of all that.

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    It could have been so disastrous for Gazza but fortunately he had good friends like Danny Baker, Chris Evans and most notably Jimmy (not One or Two but)Five(yes Five!)bellies.

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    Yes, let's hope Jack surround himself with such sensible friends.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Comparisons with Gazza worry me because of how that turned out! He never fulfilled the potential had, but he does have some mental illness which made him unmanageable. I don't think Jack does, I think he's just a bit of an idiot. But he's young and will hopefully grow out of all that.
    He's not just young - he's a young Dad too, so any trips to the nightclub will be immediately logged and banked by the Mrs for later! He can't afford to let that get out of hand.

    Gazza's biggest problem, IMO, was that he was never managed well - he moved around too much, and was allowed to indulge all the worst parts of his personality, and never really had anyone to keep him in line. Jack can be a bit of a shagwit at times, but he's got a lot more stability and support around him at Arsenal.

    Besides, the comparison was more about how he is on the pitch than off of it...
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    Jack is more probably the more nturally talented out of he two but i think Ramsey is more mature in his approach. at times last season jack was our best player and that game against Swansea was probably his best for us. to be fair to him he hasnt played in his favourite position this season; in the middle alongside a holding player, and has been playing wide right or left which is all new for him.

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    If Ramsey can cut out the hospital balls he makes every game he could become the best arsenal player of this generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    If Ramsey can cut out the hospital balls he makes every game he could become the best arsenal player of this generation.
    I've noticed he has become over confident, you can tell by his demeanor. Though he's in the form of his life so you can't blame him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    Jack is more probably the more nturally talented out of he two but i think Ramsey is more mature in his approach. at times last season jack was our best player and that game against Swansea was probably his best for us. to be fair to him he hasnt played in his favourite position this season; in the middle alongside a holding player, and has been playing wide right or left which is all new for him.
    Nah, come on. Enough with the excuses. Jack has missed 15 months of development through injury but he is now already 21 years old. It's all over for him now just as it was for Ramsey a year ago. Need to sell him to Aston Villa while the English hype is still strong.

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    The difference is simple. Ramsey is Welsh, therefore wasnt hyped to death by the press. You dont see the dehabilitating arrogance you see from Wilshere on and off the pitch.

    Compare Bellamy to Owen, Bale to Adam Johnson, Giggs to Gazza. If two players are roughly equally talented the Welsh one will go on to be the better player. Fact.

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