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    monreal

    awful doritos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketsi View Post
    Wilshere may as well have been subbed in the second half because through his nonsensical substitutions, Wenger took him out of the game. Putting Ramsey at right back and taking Arteta off meant he had to push back away from their area, so by the end he couldn't offer us anything going forward. When he was around their area though he turned down some opportunities to shoot, which he needs to start accepting, particularly as nobody else in our team has a hope in hell of scoring from our aimless passing in front of their defensive line.

    Ramsey might not have been too bad, but he still slows the play down all the time and more often than not plays a diagonally backwards ball. I thought we were screwed as soon as I saw Mertesacker in the starting 11, why Koscielny doesn't start when he's clearly our best CB (not saying much, mind) I can't figure out.
    You need to start thinking about Vermaelen in that way. We would have lost 3-0 if Merts wasn't on the pitch. He gets singled out far too often when he's been our best CB by a mile. Verm is the one that should have people in panic when the teamsheet is announced. Shocking again yesterday and played his part in both goals. Clueless defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Wilshere is nothing special because he's not Fabregas? What sort of an argument is that? Not being Fabregas doesn't stop him being a good player and there's little doubt he's a good player. Certainly the stand out in our team at present. Granted he's playing in the worst team we've had in decades but there'd be no shortage of top clubs lining up for his signature of he wanted away. That tell enough of the story to put the debate to bed.
    Was it wenger who described him as technically perfect? Well id accept that in theory, technically he has few superiors. Fabregas wasnt superior in pure technique.

    But people confuse impressive close control for alot of things. The ability to paint pictures, create, make play. At 18 it was clear fabregas would be a dictator of play and the sort youd build your team around. wilsheres nice but he will be the clog in the system of a good team, a bridesmaid.

    So when I hear people saying hes carrying this and that, hes a saviour, we should build our team around him, "hes the best midfielder in arsenals history" [some muppet on the times podcast, and only when questioned by marcotti did he reduce it too "ok, best of his type"], fans jumping on hamanns backfor suggesting hes not world class (yet). When I see all that I see the wheels in motion to destroy this boy. If you loved him you should be doing everything in your power to dampen expectation because if not in august of next year, when he hasnt playmaked the world to death and england return in disgrace, we could be receiving the latest most popular scapegoat. and a shellshocked player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBN View Post
    Was it wenger who described him as technically perfect? Well id accept that in theory, technically he has few superiors. Fabregas wasnt superior in pure technique.

    But people confuse impressive close control for alot of things. The ability to paint pictures, create, make play. At 18 it was clear fabregas would be a dictator of play and the sort youd build your team around. wilsheres nice but he will be the clog in the system of a good team, a bridesmaid.

    So when I hear people saying hes carrying this and that, hes a saviour, we should build our team around him, "hes the best midfielder in arsenals history" [some muppet on the times podcast, and only when questioned by marcotti did he reduce it too "ok, best of his type"], fans jumping on hamanns backfor suggesting hes not world class (yet). When I see all that I see the wheels in motion to destroy this boy. If you loved him you should be doing everything in your power to dampen expectation because if not in august of next year, when he hasnt playmaked the world to death and england return in disgrace, we could be receiving the latest most popular scapegoat. and a shellshocked player.
    He just needs to be left alone to play his own game. But the pressure is on him, because he clearly has talent, and Wenger hasn't supplememented the rest of the team with real quality, so the burden is on Jack.

    Unfairly so, as he still has a lot to learn. You know, being 21 and having had a year out with injury.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    best one was taking jenkinson off, who was bombing forward and is probably our best crosser, and sticking ramsey there.

    and we have a 6 ft 4 striker leading the attack. what's he supposed to feed off? doritos?
    Jenkinson was injured, by his own admission.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote? link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal View Post
    Wonder what the charges will be?
    He has been let out on "Bale"

    Boom Boom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I'm not one for BONBONs left field theories but Cesc was streets ahead of Wheelchair at the same age. There's no doubting Jack will be great but unfortunately for him he's been placed on pedestal because both Arsenal and England need a saviour.

    It's vital we buy a quality midfielder to ease the burden. Ramzi and Diaby are not the answer and Arteta is not going to get any better.

    True, Cesc was better at his age but in fairness to Jack he's lost a year and half due to injury which as we've seen with the likes of Ramsey and Eduardo, can kill people's careers. Cesc also had the advantage of being introduced to the team with better players like Henry, Rosicky, Hleb, Van Persie etc etc, Jack's has to play with our current shower of shite. There's also the fact the fact that Cesc is one of the best fucking players on the planet; there's no shame being second best to him.

    I'm not sure building a team around Jack is the wisest of ideas - I personally think building a team around one player it's never a good idea but unless the club take a completely different approach with regards to their transfer and wage structure policy I think it's probably our best choice at the moment.

    I do agree that he needs help though, he's been given too much responsibility and hype at young age, partly the fault of the media and also partially our fault. In these grim times we can't help but become attached to someone who seems like a potential saviour.

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    Just watching Monday Night Football analysis from Neville. Really good stuff from him on the way we play the high backline. Vermaelen is a nightmare defender to play with. No communication, action jittery movement.....he has no control of the backline or any idea of whose covering for him. He plays for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Just watching Monday Night Football analysis from Neville. Really good stuff from him on the way we play the high backline. Vermaelen is a nightmare defender to play with. No communication, action jittery movement.....he has no control of the backline or any idea of whose covering for him. He plays for himself.
    Link please?

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