"i think vermaelen makes as many major mistakes as kos does, however with kos they are often own goals or missed clearances so are much more noticable whereas vermaelens mistakes are often giving away free kicks (like the chelsea game) that cost us but because there is a break in play between the mistake and free kick etc it gets less noticed compared to kos scoring own goals "
yep, they are both error prone. but we dont practice defending so what does it matter anyways.
we were poor again in what we should have thought was an important game. man for man, everton are not better than us. if moyes was coaching us and wenger everton, we would have beaten them. im not confident that this lot will pick up the slack nor am i confident that wenger will invest enough in jan or if he will change the way we approach the game.