Match Reaction v Swansea at home (15/16)

[Özim]

His time was up many years ago and at any other club he'd have been gone a long time ago, but here the owners are happy as they're seeing cash roll in left, right and center and the fans in reality just accepted this losers mentality as if it's the norm and is unrealistic to think it should be any different.

Even the great Ferguson after 3 years of not winning was being questioned so to think Wenger has lasted pretty much 11 years and is still here just shows how little resistance there's been. Had we waved goodbye and cut our losses a few years ago we'd probably be in a much better place now, as it is the squad needs a lot of work, the players have Wengerball so ingrained in them it will take quite a lot of work to change that and the whole club from top to bottom is now geared to accept mediocrity...that kind of damage will take years to fix.

When he finally has no choice but to leave I'm expecting what will probably be a hard transition because when someone has managed a club as long as Wenger has with such a big ego changing things isn't going to be easy, but at least we'll have unpredictability and hope back and if we do have a few tough seasons where things don't go to plan at least we can hope for better.

We could rename this club Arsene Wenger because in reality it's all about him from top to bottom which is a terrible scenario for any club and the owners have been more than happy with that as their only interest in money.

I felt he should have gone quite a while back and the fact he didn't has really done us no favours, it's probably done more damage than good in reality.

[Niall_Quinn]

Someone here at least make an effort to back AW.. WTF is going on? There is no opposing viewpoint anymore. GW is getting as boring as the team!

Wenger in

[IBK]

To be honest, even I have got to the point where the title isn't enough. With this squad we should be clear at the top, not desperately scrabbling around for a win and hoping teams like Spurs and Leicester drop points.

Exactly this.

[Letters]

What changing a manager can do

The operative word there being 'can'. There are plenty of examples where it's gone the other way.

[Özim]

The operative word there being 'can'. There are plenty of examples where it's gone the other way.

Frankly who cares, it will take time for any manager clearly after 20 years of one man in charge who has so much control, we may have a few a seasons, but if it's changes things for the better long term I'm all for it, when he does eventually leave we can at least look forward to change and seeing something different which is a good thing.

We should never have kept an underperforming manager for 20 years anyway, I also think it's not healthy for a club to keep one man in charge for 20 years, what you're seeing at Man U is an example of that (but Ferguson was incredibly successful so you could understand why they didn't get rid of him), we'll probably go through the same thing, but it'll be worse of rus because we haven't had 20 years of success.

[alexander]

He's been dire since his return but one of the big problems we have is that we really don't have enough other options for a reliable source of goals up front.

Giroud scores about three in a batch before going on a 8 or so game drought, Theo is hit and miss, Ozil has a slight bit of the Hleb's about scoring, Ramsey's lost his goalscoring touch and Ox seems incapable of using his talent to score goals.

Oh how I cry for the days when you had Henry, Freddie and Pires all contributing double figures every year.

I wonder about Wengers coaching these days. He used to take a rough diamond and make them great, and a good player a world beater. These last 6+ seasons he cant do it. He even takes players like Arshavin and Alexis, who come with so much and smash the place up, and after 6-12 months they look like husks of their former selves. I know Alexis has been injured, but not sure its just that. Theo is a different case, no coach in the world can sort out that shower of shite.

[alexander]

Frankly who cares, it will take time for any manager clearly after 20 years of one man in charge who has so much control, we may have a few a seasons, but if it's changes things for the better long term I'm all for it, when he does eventually leave we can at least look forward to change and seeing something different which is a good thing.

We should never have kept an underperforming manager for 20 years anyway, I also think it's not healthy for a club to keep one man in charge for 20 years, what you're seeing at Man U is an example of that (but Ferguson was incredibly successful so you could understand why they didn't get rid of him), we'll probably go through the same thing, but it'll be worse of rus because we haven't had 20 years of success.

TBF I would take a few seasons of up and down if we got the right man in place. Its not as if im not disappointed most of the time anyway.

I expect very little of Arsenal these days, yet im still disappointed on a regular basis.

[Niall_Quinn]

A new manager could transform the team within 5 minutes. We'd be better in every aspect from the minute he walked in and it almost wouldn't matter who we picked. That's how poor, or more like non-existent, Wenger is as a coach and a motivator. Keeping it going would be the hard part, achieving the consistency of Wenger but without installation of the glass ceiling. Putting in methods that developed the players, expanding the range of tactics, deprogramming certain players, working in new and sane fitness programs - these are what would take the time to develop. But in terms of the team and our style of play, 5 minutes tops for a total transformation to something better. I could do it myself, 5 minutes. Anyone could do it. The manager is THAT bad.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

[fakeyank]

Wenger in

Bitch.